Cars 2

[plan_D]

What planet are you living on, CC? Not reliable because they're French? Peugeots and Citroens are very reliable cars, not as reliable as most Japanese cars but still they're reliable.

 

[cheddar cheese]

M3's are truly s**t cars.

Get out. NOW!

Theyre unreliable by the standards of most cars, D. In reliability surveys, Renault, Citroen and Peugeot always languish at the bottom with Alfa Romeo and Fiat. The French are well off the standards of the Japanese and the Germans.

 

[plan_D]

Well, since my dad has had a Citroen for 8 years that hasn't broken down once. I'm going to rate it quite high on the reliability scale. The only way they're not reliable is when dicks like Clarkson drive them.

 

[cheddar cheese]

My Dads had a Renault for 4 years, and in the last 6 months alone its broke down 4 times. So I, like most owners of french cars, am going to rate it low on the reliability scale.

 

[plan_D]

Obviously A) Don't know how to maintain cars B) Drive it wrong and tear it up. They're not sports cars, they're not supposed to be thrashed.

 

[SeaNorris]

M3's are truly s**t cars.

Get out. NOW!

Theyre unreliable by the standards of most cars, D. In reliability surveys, Renault, Citroen and Peugeot always languish at the bottom with Alfa Romeo and Fiat. The French are well off the standards of the Japanese and the Germans.

Doesnt matter about their unreliablity, its who drives them. all little knobs who think they own the spot becasue they are in a BMW M3. Go away, i really dont like your M3, even if it has 22" Alloys, gimme a M5 anyday.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Obviously A) Don't know how to maintain cars B) Drive it wrong and tear it up. They're not sports cars, they're not supposed to be thrashed.

No no no. He drives like sister wendy and my dad, and his brothers, are excellent mechanics. And its it pretty f*cking hard to thrash a 1.9 diesel Renault Kangoo.

Lets have a look at the bottom ten cars (out of 142) in the 2004 JD Power customer satisfaction survey.

133. Fiat Stilo
134. Renault Megane
135. Citroen Xsara
136. Peugeot 206
137. Citroen Saxo
138. Fiat Bravo
139. Renault Espace
140. Renault Laguna
141. Peugeot 307
142. Mercedes M-Class


Pieces of shit! Out of the bottow ten, 7 are French!!! The Highest French car is the Citroen Berlingo at 74.

The Average scores by country:

Czech Republic: 91.1
Japan: 86.5
Sweden: 83.6
Germany: 83.5
Spain: 82.3
UK: 82.2
South Korea: 82.0
USA: 80.8
Italy: 77.0
France: 74.9

Another Random Statistic is that 7 of the bottom 10 cars rated as having the most unpleasant odour when you buy them are French.

In terms of absolute reliability, taking nothing else into consideration, the bottom 10 are:

133: Citroen C3
134: VW Polo
135: Citroen Xsara
136: Citroen C5
137: Fiat Stilo
138: Renault Megane
139: Mercedes M-Class
140: Peugeot 307
141: Renault Laguna
142: Renault Espace


Now D, would you like to tell me French cars are reliable? I relaise your dad may have been lucky, but those figures speak for themselves. Look in the December issue of Top Gear magazine if you dont belive me

 

[plan_D]

My dad my have been lucky? What, he got the one and only French car that's reliable?

I bet I could thrash a 1.9 diesel Kangoo.

 

[cheddar cheese]

My dad my have been lucky? What, he got the one and only French car that's reliable?

I bet I could thrash a 1.9 diesel Kangoo.

Exactly. Myabe that one had some German Work Experience student helping on it or something

Oh I could thrash it too, give me a stubble field and a few opponents....

 

[plan_D]

I don't believe that 206 one, my brother's friend basically beats the shit out of his and he's had it for 3 years and it hasn't broke down. My brother thrashes his 306 and that's fine. Before I snapped the axle I would thrash my Saxo from time to time too. I ain't got a car now. BUT - gettin' new job - 1500 a month. Could get one...

 

[cheddar cheese]

Well it obviously doesnt mean all of them does it. The 206 did surprise me though I didnt think it would be so low.

Ill probably splash out on a BMW 3 series E30. Ive seen tidy examples for about £750 in Auto Trader.

 

[plan_D]

It's all well and good likin' the buying price but what about the insurance and fuel costs?

 

[cheddar cheese]

Aint gotta be worrying about the Insurance, my folks said theyd pay for it on my first car Fuel costs..? Meh

I did see this recently though...

 

[plan_D]

They'd pay for your insurance on your first car? Must be loaded if you're gettin' a M3. And you won't be sayin' "Meh" to fuel costs when you're driving one.

 

[cheddar cheese]

No, Im not getting an M3. Will probably be a 316 or 318.

 

[evangilder]

Geez, that escort planter is bonafide redneck material!

 

[jrk]

i was involved in a car crash in an escort mk 2 that nearly cost me my life.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Too bad! At least it didnt cost you your life though.

Ive been in a few car crashes, either caused by me or the conditions. Ive olled it a couple of times but this situtation was pretty fun too (im in the Mini)

 

[SeaNorris]

No, Im not getting an M3. Will probably be a 316 or 318.

Yeah, they are better than M3s. Becasue most people in M3's think they are the 'man', well I got news for them, Your not.


When they are at lights, some look around as if to say, 'Look at me! I got this dealing crack!'

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yep Whats worse id when people buy a 316, lower it and put an M3 badge on. Yeah mate, people can see right through that