syscom3
Pacific Historian
Syscom lets hear US navy in 1939? and in 1945?
I am sure you have it hand.
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Syscom lets hear US navy in 1939? and in 1945?
I am sure you have it hand.
Its on my computer at home. You will have to wait untill tonight to see the information.
I think that before any attacks or invations on the US mainland, the allied would have sided with the Germans to fight the Russians. Or am I wrong??
Royal Navy in September 1939:
Battleships 15
Carriers 7
Cruisers 66
Destroyers 184
Submarines 60
Total: 332
Royal Navy August 1945:
Battleships 20
Carriers 65
Cruisers 101
Destroyers 461
Submarines 238
Total: 885
Also Syscom3, remember that Royal Navy had ARMORED aircraft carrier decks, something that USN did NOT have...
Another thing fellow forum travellers, WHY would the "axis" invade the US??
This is a great place to learn!
The carriers the US put into service carried more combined air power than the RN throughout the entire war - not to mention MUCH more effective aircraft.
No you cleverly dance around saying it actually, kinda like a lawyer or a politian.
What you do say is that Europe owes US graditude for saving it in WW2. Plus you are argueing in this thread which, by using just this title alone shows what you believe (I know you never made it), you believe the USA could of won vs the world, if you didn't believe that you would not be argueing on this thread.
Don't be shy Syscom, admit it....stop walking the fence. You worried you might be proven wrong?
1. Combined Europe Asia would be ALOT stronger in every military sense than the US could ever be.
2. Who do you think has access to the most best raw materials and recources ??
3. With no persecution of the jews the Atom bomb would be in the hands of the country which came upon the Idea first - Germany.
Over time this would inevitably force the US to capitulate, large scale invasion or not - an all out war starting in the gap between eastern Europe and America would eventually drain the US of all war resources.
The US had the largest industrial and manufacturing base in the world. magnitudes above that of Europe and Russia.
The fact you include Asia in your calculations is either a lame attempt at humor, or you are so grossly misinformed about actual economic strengths of the combatants in the 30's and 40's, you should not be posting such absurdities and embarressing yourself.
You all so clever man, who never has opened a book on the subject..... The US and Canada were nearly completely self sufficent in natural resources.
Yes, the Nazi's are no longer going to persecute the Jews, in fact, they will invite all of them back to the homeland with a hug and a tear on the cheek.
A more likely scenario is all of the Jewish scientists will get out of Europe and get to the US.
And where do you get this idea that germany had the idea for an atomic bomb first? Same guy who told you the Ta-152 was carrier capable? The simple fact is nuclear weapons (a controlled fission device) had been discussed in academia for a couple of decades and every physisist of the day knew of the concept.
But only the US had the scientific, technical and industrial capacity to make it work.
We are on the defensive and you have to come to us.
You simply didnt have the resources to invade with the required margins to win.
The RN had a large cruiser force and well manned but her cruisers had not the range of US cruisers, not by half, because of outmoded boiler design and their AA fire control was ineffective. On average her cruisers were not as well armed or armored as their US counterparts. As I recall one of the Leander class was sunk by a German armed merchant cruiser. Was it Sydney?
The only reason Hitler went for the jews was as an excuse to start a war anyways...
This is a very a very hypothetical thread....
Flyboy, your point about the people in this country with guns is a good one. I can't think of any country in the world where the citizenry is as well armed as in the US. A would be conquerer would have his work cut out for him trying to subdue this country, especially in the 1940s.
Thats a problem in the middleast an East Asia too, everybody owns an AK or an SKS and thats one of the many problems were facing right now