N4521U
Colonel
They.... are.... caling youuuuu.uu,uu..uuuuu..uu...uuuuuuu!
I've never claimed to be able to sing!
I've never claimed to be able to sing!
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**** DONE: 1/48 Arado Ar-196-A - Jet/Recon/Transport GB
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ccheese
Member In Perpetuity
Crimea_River
Marshal
Don't think he even got ahead.
Looking good Paul.
Looking good Paul.
Vic Balshaw
Major General
Good work so far!
N4521U
Colonel
You guys are soooooooo mean.
I'm going to my room, and I'm going to Stay there!!!!
I'm going to my room, and I'm going to Stay there!!!!
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meatloaf109
1st Lieutenant
Color question, RLM 72/73, or 70/71? Seen both in profiles. This is 1940 on the Bismarck, mind. Also hard edge splinter or soft? Again, seen both. The only thing everyone agrees on is the underside 65.
I would appreciate any input.
I would appreciate any input.
ccheese
Member In Perpetuity
Wojtek would probably be your authority on this. He's on duty today, with the PAF, so the people of Poland are safe from falling aircraft.
Charles
Charles
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
My references for Maritime aircraft show RLM 02 up to the outbreak of war, and then upper surfaces in RLM 72/73 until 1941, when upper surface colour became RLM 72 overall. Both these, as you noted, had RLM 65 under surfaces.
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meatloaf109
1st Lieutenant
So it is probable to be 72 for the cruise?
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Just replied to your PM Paul. I think I'd go with the 72/73/65.
EDIT: Just had a look at another reference - I'll send you a PM.
EDIT: Just had a look at another reference - I'll send you a PM.
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meatloaf109
1st Lieutenant
O.K., Thanks!
The official Revell build up for their 1/32 has one in each scheme, splinter 72/73 and an overall72.
The official Revell build up for their 1/32 has one in each scheme, splinter 72/73 and an overall72.
Crimea_River
Marshal
According to Ullmann, 72/73/65 was introduced on maritime aircraft in 1939 and used through 1945. For the Ar196, a single colour may have been applied on late war aircraft (no specifics).
In regard to hard vs soft edge, regardless of what the actual application would have been, at 1/72, I'd be masking your splinters.
In regard to hard vs soft edge, regardless of what the actual application would have been, at 1/72, I'd be masking your splinters.
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Andy, I've just had a look at more references and pics (and PM'd Paul), where the change to 72 overall upper surface is evident throughout, the earliest photo being from early 1941 (albeit Luftwaffe, at Brest), with others from 1943 to 1945, in various theatres and locations, with Luftwaffe, KM, and other axis users. Profiles covering these periods also show the single upper-surface colour.
I'm a bit knackered at the moment (another painful 40+ hours without sleep), so can't think clearly, but I'm fairly sure that somewhere I have a more detailed reference, specifically for shipboard aircraft. I'm off to bed now, but if I can remember, when I eventually regain consciousness tomorrow, I'll have a search for it.
I'm a bit knackered at the moment (another painful 40+ hours without sleep), so can't think clearly, but I'm fairly sure that somewhere I have a more detailed reference, specifically for shipboard aircraft. I'm off to bed now, but if I can remember, when I eventually regain consciousness tomorrow, I'll have a search for it.
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meatloaf109
1st Lieutenant
Thanks guys!
I'm sure that I saw a solid color -196 on the Bismarck somewhere...
I'm sure that I saw a solid color -196 on the Bismarck somewhere...
Aaron Brooks Wolters
Brigadier General
Looking very sharp Paul, keep up the excellent work sir. I have been wanting one of these from Tamyia but may go with the Italeri kit due to cost.
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meatloaf109
1st Lieutenant
They are identical, except for the decals and the cost.
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Haven't found that reference yet Paul, but I had a quick look at another book, with a pic of Bismark, and the colour appears to be the single colour in the B&W pic.
I'll keep looking, as I'm sure I have an article somewhere which was published when either the Revell 1/32nd scale kit, or the Italeri 1/48th scale kit was released. It'll be in my 'overflow files' I think (that is, one of two large piles of magazines in a corner!!).
I'll keep looking, as I'm sure I have an article somewhere which was published when either the Revell 1/32nd scale kit, or the Italeri 1/48th scale kit was released. It'll be in my 'overflow files' I think (that is, one of two large piles of magazines in a corner!!).
