eBay: North American P-51 Mustang

[drgondog]

Baugher North American P-51D-20-NA 44-72253 (354th FS, 355th FG, 8th AF) collided in midair with P-51D 44-14346 and crashed in England Jun 2,1944. Pilot survived, but aircraft was destroyed.

Jane VI Big Gas Bird picture 44-72253 | American Air Museum

American Air Museum incorrect. Baugher correct.

When my father traded 253 for 953 after April 13th mission, WR-B was recoded to WR-L.
Mills was assigned P-51K WR-L 44-11759 Big Gas Bird, which was destroyed by flak on 4-04-1945 McDonell KIA. Shown is Mills and clear K AeroP prop. Aslo shown is dad's WR-B JANE VI 44-72253

 

[Snautzer01]

American Air Museum incorrect. Baugher correct.

When my father traded 253 for 953 after April 13th mission, WR-B was recoded to WR-L.
Mills was assigned P-51K WR-L 44-11759 Big Gas Bird, which was destroyed by flak on 4-04-1945 McDonell KIA. Shown is Mills and clear K AeroP prop. Aslo shown is dad's WR-B JANE VI 44-72253

Thats why i like this board. Thank you.

 

[Snautzer01]

North American P-51B-15-NA 42-106950, WR-P, (355th FG, 354th FS, " Iowa Beaut ") shot down by flak near Rechtenbach Sep 11, 1944. MACR 8676. Pilot KIA 11-09-1944 Monday

Macr 8676 Captain Rafferty's squadron was attached to escort duty with the B-24s that hit Magdeburg that day. On the return trip from the target, he was likely hit by Flak near Marburg. Missing Aircraft Crew Report 44-8676 was subsequently filed. Another pilot in the 355th wrote in the report:

"At about 1225 in the vicinity of Marburg Red Flight bounced at least 2-Me109's. In the break Captain Rafferty fell into number Four position. Red Flight chased the 109s over Marburg in trail. WR-P was flying nearly abreast of me and when my ship was hit I broke left while WR-P broke right. That was the last time that I saw him. I passed a P-51 headed East later but couldn't identify due to the fuselage being covered with oil. I heard a P-51 pilot calling for assistance but he didn't identify himself or gave location. I never saw him."

Captain Kevin Rafferty, USAAF, hailed from Fairfield County, Connecticutt, and was 29 years old at the time of his death. He had only been overseas a few months when his aircraft went missing, and is buried in the Ardennes American Cemetery in Neupre, Belgium. He is also commemorated on the Steeple Morden 355th Fighter Group War Captain Kevin G. Rafferty, USAAF

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[drgondog]

North American P-51B-15-NA 42-106950, WR-P, (355th FG, 354th FS, " Iowa Beaut ") shot down by flak near Rechtenbach Sep 11, 1944. MACR 8676. Pilot KIA 11-09-1944 Monday

Macr 8676 Captain Rafferty's squadron was attached to escort duty with the B-24s that hit Magdeburg that day. On the return trip from the target, he was likely hit by Flak near Marburg. Missing Aircraft Crew Report 44-8676 was subsequently filed. Another pilot in the 355th wrote in the report:

"At about 1225 in the vicinity of Marburg Red Flight bounced at least 2-Me109's. In the break Captain Rafferty fell into number Four position. Red Flight chased the 109s over Marburg in trail. WR-P was flying nearly abreast of me and when my ship was hit I broke left while WR-P broke right. That was the last time that I saw him. I passed a P-51 headed East later but couldn't identify due to the fuselage being covered with oil. I heard a P-51 pilot calling for assistance but he didn't identify himself or gave location. I never saw him."

Captain Kevin Rafferty, USAAF, hailed from Fairfield County, Connecticutt, and was 29 years old at the time of his death. He had only been overseas a few months when his aircraft went missing, and is buried in the Ardennes American Cemetery in Neupre, Belgium. He is also commemorated on the Steeple Morden 355th Fighter Group War Captain Kevin G. Rafferty, USAAF

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My father was leading 354FS (as Red flight leader), had just shot down 2 109s, hit the third one hard, and chasing it streaming coolant on the deck, 'when all hell broke loose'. Flak batteries opened up - hitting Rafferty.

The target, stated above, was not Magdeburg. The 2nd BD went to Misburg/Hanover refineries, The 1st and 3rd BD went to Magdeburg/Merseburg area targets between Berin and Leipzig. The 355th engaged down in Marburg general area. Dan Case made a pretty neat video about this mission some time ago.

The picture above is of Lee Mendenhall slow timing new engine in WRP Iowa Beaut (assigned to Hulderman. It is intresting (to me) that the old name"Man O'War' was replaced when Kinnard traded his WR-A 42-106950 for WR-A 44-13305 just before D-Day - but Hulderman never took Kinnard's victory credits off.

I felt that this image was very representative of the "P-51B Mustang: North American's Bastard Stepchild that Saved 8th AF", enough that I chose this one for the cover art.

 

[Wurger]

 

[jgreiner]

My father was leading 354FS (as Red flight leader), had just shot down 2 109s, hit the third one hard, and chasing it streaming coolant on the deck, 'when all hell broke loose'. Flak batteries opened up - hitting Rafferty.

The target, stated above, was not Magdeburg. The 2nd BD went to Misburg/Hanover refineries, The 1st and 3rd BD went to Magdeburg/Merseburg area targets between Berin and Leipzig. The 355th engaged down in Marburg general area. Dan Case made a pretty neat video about this mission some time ago.

The picture above is of Lee Mendenhall slow timing new engine in WRP Iowa Beaut (assigned to Hulderman. It is intresting (to me) that the old name"Man O'War' was replaced when Kinnard traded his WR-A 42-106950 for WR-A 44-13305 just before D-Day - but Hulderman never took Kinnard's victory credits off.

I felt that this image was very representative of the "P-51B Mustang: North American's Bastard Stepchild that Saved 8th AF", enough that I chose this one for the cover art.

And nice, new, GLOSSY olive drab in the painted over invasion stripes on the upper wings/fuselage!

 

[drgondog]

It came to 354FS in April, 1944 to squadron CO Kinnard - in NMF. He chose that scheme, which was essentially 'wavy' paint OD/Green job top of fuse NMF as well as wing. The outer panel was original 'new paint' matching fuselage. When D-Day stripes were removed from top of wing, a second paint job was applied to inner wing panels and top of aft fuse where stripes were overpainted.

Kinnard had same paint job on his WR-A44-13305 and later QP-A at 4th FG

 

[Zipper730]

It's kind of funny when this thread comes up, I find myself thinking somebody found a North American P-51 Mustang (i.e. the plane, not pictures) on eBay for a fraction of a second.

I end up thinking something along the lines of either "I guess you really can find everything on eBay!" or "Congratulations -- you hit the jackpot big time!"

 

[Snautzer01]

MUSTANG 2 SQUADRON ORIGINAL RAF MUSEUM PHOTOGRAPH W/ STAMP 24TH JULY 1942 XV-E AG633 more here

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[Wurger]

 

[junkman3353]

If you want to go direct to the source for IWM Mustang photos you can use this:

Find an object | Imperial War Museums

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[ColFord]

If you want to go direct to the source for IWM Mustang photos you can use this:

Find an object | Imperial War Museums

tinyurl.com

The IWM has significantly more Mustang photos than what they have searchable and findable on their online searches. Over a period of years as their website and online presence has grown, and they have gotten into the digitisation of the different parts of their collection eg documents, film, photos, maps, etc they have gradually increased the number of objects that can be found in searches of their online collection. A few years ago, an online search of the IWM website would produce just over 1,000 photos using the search term "Mustang". Currently it is sitting close to 1,900 for WW2 specific "Mustang" photos with a digital copy viewable online. They also appear to have a policy of periodically rotating out some photos that maybe not getting as many views or that have been available for a significant period, and replacing them with photos that have more recently been digitised. The limitation on the total number of photos made available online for viewing on their website over time is likely to be based on the capacity of their website infrastructure and some policy decision on just how much they will put online. There are still, large significant 'chunks' of the IWM photo archive that have not yet been digitised and it is a major project for them to get older and at risk negatives and prints in their collection digitised and preserved first, especially pre-WW2 photography, film, documents, etc, or items on media known to deteriorate or become unstable in a shorter timeframe - shutdowns over the past few years didn't help that project. The other issue that they have is that the information attached to some of their photos, based off original period captions or other information, can in some cases be incorrect or misleading. I've found instances where due to errors at the time the original photos were taken or when they were originally catalogued, the wrong names have been given for people, locations or subjects - not discounting the effects of wartime security and original information provided with photos etc being somewhat vague on purpose for security reasons.

 

[Snautzer01]

incidental double exposure i think fitting for a good book. Great picture

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[SaparotRob]

incidental double exposure i think fitting for a good book. Great picture

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Keep 'em flying!

 

[Snautzer01]

North American P-51D-20-NA 44-72164 (MSN 122-38623, 402nd FS, 370th FG, 9th AF) in landing accident at Gutersloh Airfield Y-99, Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Apr 22, 1945. Pilot survived, aircraft badly damaged, unknown if repaired. Must have been repaired, since went to Swedish AF as 26143. To Dominican Republic AF. Registered N7223C, cancelled.
*1/1945: Delivered to the USAAF.
*1945: USAAF 364th FS (357th FG) as C5-R.
*1/14/1945: Shot down two Luftwaffe planes.
*1945: USAAF 402nd FS (370th FG) as E6-F.
*6/1948: Sold to the Swedish AF as 26143.
*1949: F16 Wing as black 26 and black 28.
*12/1952: Sold to the Dominican Republic AF as 1919 (first).
*1/21/1953: Written off due to accident damage.
*Sold on the civilian market and registered as N7223C. Forgotten Props - A Warbirds Resource Group Site

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[SaparotRob]

Hope she's still around.

 

[Wurger]

 

[Elvis]

This thread now has me curious about a -51 my dad took pictures of at Itami in '46.
Jr. Mechanic was working on the plane, got the throttle direction mixed up.
Jumped the chalks and plowed into the side of a building at full throttle. Not sure how fast he was going.
Kid was ok, past being a "little shook up".

 

[Hoggardhigh]

Malcolm hood G-WR ?

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Anyone know the (possible) serial number of this a/c?

 

[drgondog]

Anyone know the (possible) serial number of this a/c?

43-6457