GB 23 Winter War Eastern Front WWII-Allied or Axis

fubar57 · Jul 19, 2014

rochie said:
Geo I got the Finnish decals from the Hasegawa P-40 M kit if you want them, don't know if sizes are correct though ?

That would be great Karl. When I get out of camp I'll find a photo, do some figuring and get back to you. I really don't want to purchase a decal sheet as this will more than likely be the only Finnish marked aircraft I'll do. Thanks in advance.

Geo

parsifal · Jul 20, 2014

Vic Balshaw said:
This GB is less than a couple weeks out folks, so any thoughts, questions or ideas on it, here's the place

The way I see it, this includes the Soviet-Finland winter war of November 1939-March 1940 as well as the June 1941-May 1945 Eastern Front (Germany), Great Patriotic War (Russia) and encompassed areas of Central, Eastern and Northern Europe and in the later stages, Southern Europe (the Balkans), Germany and Austria………………..Please chip in if I've got this wrong or missed somewhere.

So lots to choose from folks.

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nice map vic, but for the propaganda value, we really should include a visual of the soviet period of success, just to remind people the war didnt end december 1941.....sorry for being the smart a*ss

parsifal · Jul 20, 2014

Crimea_River said:
Jan I would vote yes, as long as your choice does not involve the Norwegian campaign. However you might want to reserve your choice for GB27 "Atlantic War".

nice way to slip in a swordfish for people that way iclined

rochie · Jul 20, 2014

fubar57 said:
That would be great Karl. When I get out of camp I'll find a photo, do some figuring and get back to you. I really don't want to purchase a decal sheet as this will more than likely be the only Finnish marked aircraft I'll do. Thanks in advance.

Geo

I will measure them up for you my friend

Catch22 · Jul 20, 2014

I just found the Me 410 from Meng in my stash. What was their usage like in the East? I know the Russians captured one.

Crimea_River · Jul 20, 2014

I don't think there were any 410's in the east Cory but will check. 210's yes, but I think 410s were mostly used in intruder and bomber intercepts int he west. Will get back in a bit.

le_steph40 · Jul 20, 2014

I've a lot of choices
May be a Mig-3, white 67, 16Gv.IAP, 216 IAD, "possibly" flown by Alexandr I. Pokryshkin, Southern Front in 1942.

Crimea_River · Jul 20, 2014

Cory, as far as I know, the closest that Me410s could be deemed to be operating on the eastern front were those based in Czechoslovakia and Hungary that operated against bombers of the US 8th and 15th AF's that bombed the eastern European oil refineries. I don't think this would qualify the 410 for this GB though I'll defer to others who may have more information. The one captured by the Russians was likely from late in the war as they approached Berlin.

You might want to save this kit for GBs 24 (yes, they operated out of Italy), 28 (night intruders), 29, or 36.

What else do you have in the stash? Don't forget that a lot of western aircraft could be used with Russian marking. Hurricanes, Spitfires, P-39's, A-20's are all possible.

Lucky13 · Jul 20, 2014

Wasn't the Czechoslovakia and Hungary the eastern front?

Crimea_River · Jul 20, 2014

As far as I know, the 410 units were not used against Russian targets. The were based there based faced threats from the west.

parsifal · Jul 20, 2014

wahat about the RAF units based for a while at Murmansk. From memory there were some hampden units, a blenheim unit a Beafighter unit and possibly a Hurricane unit, flying with RAF colours, miserble by the weather and the lack of Russian cheer.

Catch22 · Jul 20, 2014

Crimea_River said:
Cory, as far as I know, the closest that Me410s could be deemed to be operating on the eastern front were those based in Czechoslovakia and Hungary that operated against bombers of the US 8th and 15th AF's that bombed the eastern European oil refineries. I don't think this would qualify the 410 for this GB though I'll defer to others who may have more information. The one captured by the Russians was likely from late in the war as they approached Berlin.

You might want to save this kit for GBs 24 (yes, they operated out of Italy), 28 (night intruders), 29, or 36.

What else do you have in the stash? Don't forget that a lot of western aircraft could be used with Russian marking. Hurricanes, Spitfires, P-39's, A-20's are all possible.

Thanks for the information! I'll save it for 24 since I have something for the night build.

I actually don't have any of those you listed besides an A-20, but that's already committed to a 418 Squadron build. I have a Spitfire VIII, but I don't think the Russians used those. I do have a Lysander that I could do in Finnish markings.

rochie · Jul 21, 2014

i just thought i have a Ju52 !!!!!!!

might think about doing it for this GB

Lucky13 · Jul 21, 2014

rochie said:
i just thought i have a Ju52 !!!!!!!

might think about doing it for this GB

You've had the Tante Ju for months old bean...!

rochie · Jul 21, 2014

Lucky13 said:
You've had the Tante Ju for months old bean...!

i know...................... !

T Bolt · Jul 21, 2014

Something from JG 54. Either a 109 or a 190.

destrozas · Jul 21, 2014

Crimea_River said:
It will be great to see you back into a GB Karl.

Vic, I've been thinking of this one for a while and was going to post an intro today so thanks for doing that. It looks like you've pegged the theme very well.

I have two lined up for this one: Ju87R-2 winter scheme using Hasegawa's kit decals for J9+LL and Peter Bremer's Bf109F-2 Black 12"Hermannchen" just to tease my airbrush skills.

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I love this f2 is a superb job of painting a normal scale of 1/72 or 1/48, luck id go with andy

destrozas · Jul 21, 2014

parsifal said:
I saw a Hungarian heja in the local hobby shop and was thinking of doing that.

michael, Maveg heja II is the Hungarian version of the mc200 and built under license following is an airplane that I would love to do one day a special hobby of specific, since it is a plane I have to pick the day you can go to Prague ... .

if you're going to do and want to have some information of the aircraft and the Hungarian air forces

destrozas · Jul 21, 2014

I have too many Gb for this and I have to look no eye messes and make one want to do for another GB for now I plan (as possible to do), FW189 noctuno hunting on Warsaw in 1944, I-16 -18 826 reg, 36 division piloted by luis lavin Povorino Ukraine 1942,the La5f piloted by antonio Merono leningrad 1944, I am trying to locate any plane that pilot profile Ignacio Benito Aguirregoicoa in Leningrad who committed suicide or to be captured by the Germans after being shot down in 1944 and be badly hurt

Totalize · Jul 21, 2014

T Bolt said:
Something from JG 54. Either a 109 or a 190

Glenn,

Like your choices there pretty traditional. I am thinking of doing the same. Since you are the resident expert on the P40 I thought you might consider doing one of these flown by VVS.

Dave.

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