German turrets

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  1. undu562

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    HDL 151 ap.jpg Me323WT_07.jpg HDL 14.jpg jan 2011 835.jpg HDL 151 d.jpg HDL 151 me 323.jpg I am interested in german aircraft turrets from ww2 , especially the HDL 151/20 A2 and the HDL 151 / 15 , the first one was used on JU 188 the second one on teh FW 200 condor, BV 138, DO 24/26 , ME 232 etc. They were equipped with a MG 151 20 mm or 15 mm and had the REVI E2A gunsight , it was controlled by one man sitting on a folding seat. Early types of this had no protection , the only thing was on the A2 a pansarglas infront of the gunners face , later on, at least the 15 turret had steel protection both around the gunner under the view, and 2 steel plates in front , with a small aiming hole for the gunsight.

    I am restoring both of these turrets and looking for parts and pics.

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    Thanks for posting. Looks like you have a challenging hobby!
     
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    That's pretty cool.
     
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    Did American, British, Japanese and Russian bomber turrets have armor protection for the gunner?
     
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    American turrets did. I've got a reprint of AFM-20, a gunners file on operating , and some maintenance on the turrets. In most cases it doesn't say how thick, but in the Emerson nose turret ( B-24 ) it was 5/8 inch, plus some bulletproof glass.
     
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    I have the complete panzer protection for the HDL 151 / 15 , it contains of 3 parts , on is divided so the upper part can slide when moving the MG up or down, in this you can see the hole for teh REVI gunsight . Also there is a bent plate wich is attached to the lower frame work protecting the gunner inside the aircraft. The thickness is 8 mm, special steel!

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    #11 airmanual, Nov 4, 2011
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    Thank you Undu,

    Now, thanks to your post, at last i now to which type of turrets/planes my E2A gunsight was fitted to.

    All the best for your projects. Very challenging.

    Laurent

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    You have very interesting and challenging projects there Undu. Your photos are excellent and have identified the grip I got recently. The armour is from a He177. Do you have any pictures of it inside a turret? Thanks, Ian.
     

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    Thats the right hand part of the armour of the B2 stand of a He177

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    Does anyone have information on the twin MG FF turret intended to arm the Henschel Hs 124?
     
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    To add to Tyrodtom, the Grumman TBF also had armored glass and steel plate for turret gunner.
     
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