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[plan_D]

They're not fat in California? Maybe you should do some research. California suffers on average 30,000 deaths related to poor diet and obesity. 57% of the California's population is over-weight.

Ever heard of COPI, syscom? California Obseity Prevention Initiative? Sounds like a big scheme for somewhere that, apparently, isn't over-weight.

 

[syscom3]

Poor diet does not mean obeisity.

And sure there are a lot of over weight people here CAUSE THERES SO MANY PEOPLE LEGAL AND ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!

I was at the mall today and I noticed maybe one or two obese people out of hundreds. Doesnt sound many too me.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

I had a Criminal Justice 101 class last term at college. The instructor is a homicide investigator for OC County. To paraphrase him....its only a few neighborhoods that produce most of the crime. Most area's in OC and LA counties experience a violent crime once every decade, or less.

Unfortunetly no matter where you live in southern california, you're only 15 minutes from them and even the best neighborhoods are affected, you can't deny that!!!

And i'm from Minnesota. I know a thing or two about winters. Having no snow or no cold is a superior way of living.

Not if you have crime, grafitti, the second highest gas prices in the country and taxed to death - I'd rather live in Anarticia

yes traffic is bad. and I'm sorry you pick up the ugly ones at the bar. Most people dont have that issue.

Especially in LA!!!!

 

[FLYBOYJ]

I was at the mall today and I noticed maybe one or two obese people out of hundreds. Doesnt sound many too me.

Go to a mall in the inland empire and don't even look at the hispanic women - there's a lot of cows in So Cal!!!!

 

[lesofprimus]

In all honesty syscom, I consider u to be one of the more intelligent members on this board... However, ur stubborness and obvious lack of perception is really getting overboard...

I was at the mall today and I noticed maybe one or two obese people out of hundreds.

Come on dude, that was a bold faced lie....

Ur doing one of two things here.... U are either 1). Defending ur countrys/states pride... or 2). Stirring the pot and getting the members agitated on purpose.....

I believe its #2....

I noticed this behavior from u in the past, ans now its rearing its ugly fu*king head again... I thought u had been all over the world and seen many different nationalties... U should not be having this discussion if that were the facts... Same thing with the whole Budwieser gimmick... I bet u drink real beer and just say that crap to get the "juices" flowing....

America is full of overweight fat@sses and u know it syscom.... Go to any McDonalds/Burger King/KFC/Hardees/Checkers/Pizza Hut and its a verified fact....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Lets see here are some facts syscom3, and all are facts as studies from US Government:

Overweight and Obesity: Obesity Trends | DNPA | CDC

Results from the 1999–2002 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), using measured heights and weights, indicate that an estimated 65 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese.

Results from the 2003-2004 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), using measured heights and weights, indicate that an estimated 66 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese as shown in table 1.

Results from the 2003–2004 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), using measured heights and weights, indicate that an estimated 17 percent of children and adolescents ages 2–19 years are overweight.

Lets see and for California:

Community Health Disparities - Congresswoman Diane Watson : Serving California's 33rd Congressional District

According to a 2001 study conducted by CDC, nearly 21 percent of California citizens are obese. The study also found that nearly 69 percent of California adults do not engage in any type of physical activity. Another 2001 study, isolating Los Angeles County, found that 21 percent of students were overweight and another 19 percent were at risk for becoming overweight.

You can not dispute these facts syscom3, so give it up. I completely agree with Les on this matter and it is really getting old!

Lets see other facts here:

Obesity % in other countries:

Consumer Health Sciences > Press > Press Releases > OBESITY IS 2-3 TIMES MORE PREVALENT IN USA THAN IN FRANCE, GERMANY, OR GREAT BRITAIN

France: 12%
Germany: 16%
England: 20%

People in all weight categories (save those who are classified as underweight) in France, Germany, and Great Britain are far more inclined than Americans to work at slimming down. See Bar Chart 2. Only 40 percent of obese Americans are taking steps to lose weight, compared to 64 percent in France, 68 percent in Great Britain, and 69 percent in Germany.

Now what crap are you going to come up with syscom?????

 

[syscom3]

Unfortunetly no matter where you live in southern california, you're only 15 minutes from them and even the best neighborhoods are affected, you can't deny that!!!

Amazing how some of the safest cities in the world are also in LA and OC counties. Isnt it. And obviously you know that most gang crime occurs in their own neighborhoods and rarely spills over to the more affluent area's. You stay out of a few area's at night and nothing is going to happen.

Not if you have crime, grafitti, the second highest gas prices in the country and taxed to death - I'd rather live in Anarticia

When you refer to crime, what type of are you reffering too? Graffitti is a problem, no doubt about it. Taxes are an issue but we have prop 13 so my property taxes are miniscule compared to other states. Where else in the country can a home valued at 700,000 only pay $2600 a year? And thats only for my year 2000 base year. My neighbors who have lived here long before me pay even less. And gas prices? I know youre aware that its so expensive because of EPA mandated special blends. Not our fault its so high but the feds!

 

[syscom3]

Go to a mall in the inland empire and don't even look at the hispanic women - there's a lot of cows in So Cal!!!!

And also a lot of babes. By the way, does the Riverside Mall count as "Inland Empire"?

 

[syscom3]

In all honesty syscom, I consider u to be one of the more intelligent members on this board... However, ur stubborness and obvious lack of perception is really getting overboard...Come on dude, that was a bold faced lie....

Youre right, I was wrong. there were five tubs-o-lard

America is full of overweight fat@sses and u know it syscom.... Go to any McDonalds/Burger King/KFC/Hardees/Checkers/Pizza Hut and its a verified fact....

I live here so I report the facts. Some of you guys assertions are true, some not. And I need to educate you. maybe in your states you see lots of excessivley overweight people but I dont. The only places I see that are in the Hispanic area's.

Bud is good! Millions of consumers cant be all wrong.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I notice there is no snappy unreal comment made by you about the facts that I posted up there.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I live here so I report the facts. Some of you guys assertions are true, some not.

Then do me a favor, stop trying to tell other people about how it is where they are, because you have no ****ing clue!

 

[lesofprimus]

And that last post tops it off....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Im starting to get really pissed off.

Nice siggy though by the way Les. I really like it.

 

[lesofprimus]

Thanks brother.... Dont let sys get u man, he kinda enjoys seeing everyone get worked up over something as stupid as the fattish tendencies of the American public... I honestly believe he stokes the flames of dissension and then when it gets cookin, dumps a half gallon of gasoline on it...

Sinister SOB he is.... Maybe thats why I like him..

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Amazing how some of the safest cities in the world are also in LA and OC counties. Isnt it. And obviously you know that most gang crime occurs in their own neighborhoods and rarely spills over to the more affluent area's. You stay out of a few area's at night and nothing is going to happen.

And that's BS - you know as well as I that crime IS NOT limited to bad neighbnorhoods around So Cal. There are ramdom shootings all the time in So Cal freeways and it's known that gangbangers will go into the more afluent neighboords in LA and OC to do whatever...

When you refer to crime, what type of are you reffering too? Graffitti is a problem, no doubt about it. Taxes are an issue but we have prop 13 so my property taxes are miniscule compared to other states. Where else in the country can a home valued at 700,000 only pay $2600 a year? And thats only for my year 2000 base year. My neighbors who have lived here long before me pay even less. And gas prices? I know youre aware that its so expensive because of EPA mandated special blends. Not our fault its so high but the feds!

The only reason you pay 2600 a year on taxes is because of Prop 13 back in the late 1970s - the people revolted because the state was living off property taxes, Howard Jarvis put an end to that - as far as gas, your blends and airquality standards are no different here in Colorado, we have emissions testing and standards as well but it's the supply and demand of California, and especially So Cal that has your gas prices through the roof. Combine that with the over population and inflated property values and everyone wanting to drive Hummers and it's just chaos.

I live in a town about the size of Palmdale-Lancaster (which was the fastest growing communities in the country) the community I came from and with the exception of petty crime we have half the murders, assaults and gang problems. I once left my front door unlocked and garage opened for 3 days and everything was in one place when I returned. Chances are you do that, even in the more affluent neighbors of SO Cal, you'll get cleaned out..

So Cal is a pipe dream, people go there thinking to "make it big" and when they arrive they find they could barley make ends meet. You may live in a great neighboorhood in OC or the SFV, but drive down the block and jump on the freeway and you have a crowded, chaotic graffiti ridden mess until you're hundred miles out of the city. Bottom line the quality of life is horrible unless you're a millionaire and don't have to leave your gated community....

 

[FLYBOYJ]

And also a lot of babes. By the way, does the Riverside Mall count as "Inland Empire"?

YEP!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Thanks brother.... Dont let sys get u man, he kinda enjoys seeing everyone get worked up over something as stupid as the fattish tendencies of the American public... I honestly believe he stokes the flames of dissension and then when it gets cookin, dumps a half gallon of gasoline on it...

Sinister SOB he is.... Maybe thats why I like him..

Yeah and one day if he is not carefull he is going to get himself burned in the fire...

 

[syscom3]

And that's BS - you know as well as I that crime IS NOT limited to bad neighbnorhoods around So Cal. There are ramdom shootings all the time in So Cal freeways and it's known that gangbangers will go into the more afluent neighboords in LA and OC to do whatever...

The only reason you pay 2600 a year on taxes is because of Prop 13 back in the late 1970s - the people revolted because the state was living off property taxes, Howard Jarvis put an end to that - as far as gas, your blends and airquality standards are no different here in Colorado, we have emissions testing and standards as well but it's the supply and demand of California, and especially So Cal that has your gas prices through the roof. Combine that with the over population and inflated property values and everyone wanting to drive Hummers and it's just chaos.

I live in a town about the size of Palmdale-Lancaster (which was the fastest growing communities in the country) the community I came from and with the exception of petty crime we have half the murders, assaults and gang problems. I once left my front door unlocked and garage opened for 3 days and everything was in one place when I returned. Chances are you do that, even in the more affluent neighbors of SO Cal, you'll get cleaned out..

So Cal is a pipe dream, people go there thinking to "make it big" and when they arrive they find they could barley make ends meet. You may live in a great neighboorhood in OC or the SFV, but drive down the block and jump on the freeway and you have a crowded, chaotic graffiti ridden mess until you're hundred miles out of the city. Bottom line the quality of life is horrible unless you're a millionaire and don't have to leave your gated community....

My neighborhood is 1957 vintage. Some of the oldtimers here that have lived in the area since the early 60's cannot think of one homicide here, except one, which was domestic violence, which has zero impact on the community at large.

My city only had one homicide last year (and a few forcible rapes). So far this year, were back up to one. Thats one homicide every year in a city of 130,000. Anywhere you go in the world, some area's are high crime, some low crime. OC is no different. Small clusters of violence prone neighborhoods in Santa Ana and Anaheim and the rest of the county is safe. Orange, Tustin, Brea, Yorba Linda, Costa mesa, irvince, blah, blah blah all have one thing in common. NO problems. Maybe you picked the places that have the problems, but millions of people didnt.

"and it's known that gangbangers will go into the more afluent neighboords in LA and OC to do whatever...". Most gangbangers dont go into the more affluent neighborhoods because they stick out like sore thumb and are watched and observed. The police in these communities dont have much to do so intervene while theyre driving around before they cause problems. Thats why plenty of cities in california are among the safest around.

Los Angeles is no different. Hermosa Beach has next to no crime, Same with Torrance.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

My neighborhood is 1957 vintage. Some of the oldtimers here that have lived in the area since the early 60's cannot think of one homicide here, except one, which was domestic violence, which has zero impact on the community at large.

I know you're in OC - drive 10 minutes and that serinety is gone...

My city only had one homicide last year (and a few forcible rapes). So far this year, were back up to one. Thats one homicide every year in a city of 130,000. Anywhere you go in the world, some area's are high crime, some low crime. OC is no different. Small clusters of violence prone neighborhoods in Santa Ana and Anaheim and the rest of the county is safe. Orange, Tustin, Brea, Yorba Linda, Costa mesa, irvince, blah, blah blah all have one thing in common. NO problems. Maybe you picked the places that have the problems, but millions of people didnt.

You think you have no problems, i was in Irvine 2 weeks ago, I could see the streets (close to the airport) where you could see the area is no good. 3 miles away go into parts of Costa Mesa and its flat out a dump. Now granted OC is better than most but you're basically surrounded - Santa Ann, Anaheim ect. Sure OC has some of the safest cities, but 10 minhutes and 5 miles down the road you're in a sh#thole...

"and it's known that gangbangers will go into the more afluent neighboords in LA and OC to do whatever...". Most gangbangers dont go into the more affluent neighborhoods because they stick out like sore thumb and are watched and observed. The police in these communities dont have much to do so intervene while theyre driving around before they cause problems. Thats why plenty of cities in california are among the safest around.

that's BS - I've seen it in parts of the SFV, Woodland Hills and as far south as Laguna Beach - the crime is there, it's not readily on the surface becuase of the imigae of the community.

Los Angeles is no different. Hermosa Beach has next to no crime, Same with Torrance.

No but 5 mins from Torrance is Gardenia, El Segundo and Hawthorne to name a few. As far as Hermosa, go there on the week end nights and there's always some sh*t going down and it's not from people partying on the strand.

 

[syscom3]

Tell me the street in Irvine that was so bad. I am personally going to go down there and take some pictures of it and post them here.