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Don't forget about the USS Forrestal!!!Royzee617 said:What makes me laugh is what if terrorists had figured it out.... we don't need these baddies, our incompetence is sufficient sometimes. Read a book recently where a load of B57 Canberras were destroyed in Vietnam. Not by VC but by accident (dunno what). At Bien Hoa in 65 10 B57s were wrecked, worse still 28 personnel were killed. This is probably more losses than by enemy action during missions.
Another example was the loss of two B52s in a mid-air collision. Seems the refuelling tracks were all oat the same altitude. An accident waiting to happen.
Actually that's half true. In the beginning of the war there were many problems with the Sparrow Missile and the sidewinder was actually in short supply. Eventually a belly mounted gating gun was installed on the F-4. The biggest problem for guys flying the F-4 at the time was prior to the Viet Nam situation, the USAF did away with any type of air-to-air combat training as it was deemed obsolete. Pilots basically went out on their own and trained themselves! Eventually that was rectified.Royzee617 said:I have been reading Robert F Dorr's amazing book 'Air War Hanoi'. Got it from a charity shop for a quid!
It goes on about how the F100 wasn't up to much. So they replaced it with the F4. Seems they thought the Phantom would fare better against the MiGs. But the early F4s lacked any guns! They had the Sparrow but the stupid ROE prevented them from fully being exploited. Meanwhile, the Migs could sneak in close and spray em with lead!