fastmongrel
1st Sergeant
The B24 had a lower ceiling it was usually flown about 25,000ft on a bombing mission, the B17 usually about 28,000ft
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Actually the machines were comparable with the 24 faster, longer ranged and with a higher ceiling as it was a later design. The B17 was tougher and less prone to fire.
Spitfire MkII pilots were court martialled for attacking bombers ... FACTwe've missed one of the big ones i think ?
during the BoB Hurricanes were intentionally vectored onto the bombers whilst Spitfires vectored onto the fighter escort !
Say what? Wow. If it wasn't you posting that I never would've believed itSpitfire MkII pilots were court martialled for attacking bombers ... FACT
On the internet anything with "FACT" after it, never is. Its a joke.Say what? Wow. If it wasn't you posting that I never would've believed it
You are correct. Thanks for pointing out my error.The B24 had a lower ceiling it was usually flown about 25,000ft on a bombing mission, the B17 usually about 28,000ft
D'OH!!On the internet anything with "FACT" after it, never is. Its a joke.
And that's what I thought. Unlike some of the youngsters here I do remember milk jugs.The P-47 was called the "Jug" by it's pilots because it looked like a milk jug.
To understand what they meant by milk jug, you have to go back to the 30's and 40's, when milk was transported in fat metal cylinders and transferred to glass bottles. The P-47 looked like a big, fat metal cylinder.
So while some might think it was short for "Juggernaught", it wasn't.
Well that would confuse the Brits who call them milk churns.And that's what I thought. Unlike some of the youngsters here I do remember milk jugs.
A milk churn was originally used to make butter from milk, when they started transporting milk by rail it was found that the "churn" was more stable than the "pail". So they started using churns to transport milk and the name stuck. They were common around the countryside when I was young, and we called them churns. Note I didn't use "FACT" so it is in fact, a fact. Milk churn - WikipediaOkay pbehn, I ain't buying that. Fool me once....
It would have better performance if you put a balkenkreuz on it. FACT!Late 30's era 10 gallon milk jug.
Lay it on it's side, slap a couple wings on it, stick a prop in it's nose and Voila! a P-47...
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Or stick a "meatball" on the side and call it a KI-87...It would have better performance if you put a balkenkreuz on it. FACT!
...actually,I haven't been here in a few days and come back to find you guys have let me down. I saw the discussion about RR vs Packard and couldn't wait to find the TRUTH about the two versions of the Merlin.
1) The US version used imperial measurements while the Brit version used metric.
2) The RR had all the bolts reverse threaded compared to the Packards, so they had to be turned the "wrong way" to be installed.
3) Because all the bolts were backward, the propeller shaft spun the other way, so planes with the RR engines had to have their propellers put on backward.
4) Planes with the RR Merlins had to drive on the wrong side of the runway.
(Sorry, that's all I could think of on such short notice. I'm sure some of you guys will help me out with the rest.)
-Irish
The actual production process was to fire an ironing board at it at 600MPH (crosses were applied later).Late 30's era 10 gallon milk jug.
Lay it on it's side, slap a couple wings on it, stick a prop in it's nose and Voila! a P-47...
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Once you have mastered the basics of milk storage and transportation the rest is pretty much cruising downhill.I'm trembling at the thought that you guys were actually involved in aircraft design & development for several nations for the last several decades! SO MUCH IS EXPLAINED! FACT!