102first_hussars
Tech Sergeant
It would make more sense for me to say the B2 Stealth or the B-1B Lancer, however I have always had a great appreciation for the B-52 Stratofortress, so whats your opinion?
Greatest Modern Bomber
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Nimrod? I hope, for your sake, you're not refering to the RAF Nimrod? Which was never a bomber, it wasn't even designed off a bomber. It was an AWACS aircraft designed off the De Havilland Comet airliner.
And while I know the Nimrod fleet is under consideration for conversion to long-range bomber configuration, the drawings haven't even been started. The plane is not even nearly a bomber yet.
And the B-1B Lancer is the best, in my opinion.
And while I know the Nimrod fleet is under consideration for conversion to long-range bomber configuration, the drawings haven't even been started. The plane is not even nearly a bomber yet.
And the B-1B Lancer is the best, in my opinion.
Glider
Captain
The Nimrod is an Anti Sub aircraft with 2 or 3 used as electronic intelligence gathering. The AWAX version was cancelled many years ago.
If I had to choose it would be the Canberra. Probably used by more countries than any other jet bomber and possibly an other bomber period in history. Certainly isn't the biggest or fastest by a long shot but it did its job for many years and did it well.
If I had to choose it would be the Canberra. Probably used by more countries than any other jet bomber and possibly an other bomber period in history. Certainly isn't the biggest or fastest by a long shot but it did its job for many years and did it well.
I know it was scrapped, my dad had to keep one running at RAF Finningley for a long time to train people on the electronics. I think that was one of the last ones in 'service' (it wasn't certified to fly). The E-3s were/are much better aircraft, plus the British variants are the best.
Although, the idea of converting them into bombers is interesting. They'd have been better off keeping Vulcans and just improving them.
And we can't deny the role of the Canberra, no way. Good choice.
Although, the idea of converting them into bombers is interesting. They'd have been better off keeping Vulcans and just improving them.
And we can't deny the role of the Canberra, no way. Good choice.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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well the nimrod's the closest bloody thing we have to a heavy bomber so don't rule it out, i thought the Tu-160'd be in the list though?
For me it is either the B-1 or the B-2. I would also give honourable mentions to the Canberra and the B-52 though.
That it maybe but it isn't so why is it on the list. So did I.
the lancaster kicks ass said:
That it maybe but it isn't so why is it on the list. So did I.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
B52. Can carry lots and lots of bombs. Its huge airframe makes it adaptable for anything that might want to be added or updated.
Being able to carry a lot of PGM's has given it a new lease on life.
Being able to carry a lot of PGM's has given it a new lease on life.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
B-52 all the way!!! Although the B-1 and B-2 have been successfully deployed, they have very big shoes to fill when looking at the longevity, combat record, and bombs dropped by the B-52. Additionally for what the cost of the B-52 was, it has certainly given its money's worth....
Just a side note - B-1 pilots consider the B-2 a "Fag Bomber."
Just a side note - B-1 pilots consider the B-2 a "Fag Bomber."
syscom3
Pacific Historian
Why a "fag" bomber?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
syscom3 said:
Because it flies high and relatively slow - the B-1B drivers are into that fast low level "Shock and awe," more testosterone I guess?!?
Glider
Captain
If I had to pick one from the list it would be the B52. As FJ said m the USA definately got their moneys worth out of that aircraft.
Question for someone who may know the detail.
Recently NASA retired its original B52 that was an A version. I read an interesting article on this machine as NASA kept it as original as possible as a deliberate point of pride. In the example of this they mentioned in the start up sequence they still used the egg timer as per the original planes.
Can anyone tell me why you would want to use an egg timer in the start up process on a B52?
Question for someone who may know the detail.
Recently NASA retired its original B52 that was an A version. I read an interesting article on this machine as NASA kept it as original as possible as a deliberate point of pride. In the example of this they mentioned in the start up sequence they still used the egg timer as per the original planes.
Can anyone tell me why you would want to use an egg timer in the start up process on a B52?
syscom3
Pacific Historian
FLYBOYJ said:
I wonder what CC's reaction will be regarding a "fag" bomber
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Glider said:
I'll ask my father in law, he has several thousand hours in B-52s
Nonskimmer
Captain
A bomber that carries cigarettes?syscom3 said:I wonder what CC's reaction will be regarding a "fag" bomber
Oh, and I like the B-1 best.
Ta.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
I wonder if its called a fag bomber in the same way the A6 Prowler is called the queer because as a A6 Intruder jock told me it was unatural for 4 men to sit so close the B2 guys are pretty close to each other maybesyscom3 said:FLYBOYJ said:
I wonder what CC's reaction will be regarding a "fag" bomber
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
pbfoot said:I wonder if its called a fag bomber in the same way the A6 Prowler is called the queer because as a A6 Intruder jock told me it was unatural for 4 men to sit so close the B2 guys are pretty close to each other maybesyscom3 said:FLYBOYJ said:
I wonder what CC's reaction will be regarding a "fag" bomber
Maybe?!? But then again 4 men sit close together in the B-1, the only difference is they're going 800 knots on the deck!
cheddar cheese
Major General
As much as I love the B-1...has to be be B-52.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
cheddar cheese said:
Agree! When I'm around my father in law, we'll talk a lot about the B-52 and B-1. We don't mention "that other bomber" too much! (Even though I worked on it for 7 months)
By the way my father in law still holds 7 world speed records with the B-1 by himself...
CHECK OUT THE PAYLOADS AND SPEEDS!
Sub-class : C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 10 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'N/S 58'
Database ID 3840
Sub-class : C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 15 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'N/S 58'
Database ID 3841
Sub-class : C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 20 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'N/S 58'
Database ID 3842
Sub-class : C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 25 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'N/S 58'
Database ID 3843
Sub-class : C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 30 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'S/N 58'
Class C (Aeroplanes)
Sub-class C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 1 000 km with 30 000 kg payload : 1 089.36 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft: Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'S/N 58'
Class C (Aeroplanes)
Sub-class C-1q (Landplanes: take off weight 150 000 to 200 000 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a closed circuit of 2 000 km with 5 000 kg payload : 1 078.20 km/h
Date of flight: 04/07/1987
Pilot: Robert CHAMBERLAIN (USA)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)
Aircraft: Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F101-GE-102, 14 000 kg each)
Registered 'N/S 58'
He is posted on 18 more as "co-pilot."
http://records.fai.org/pilot.asp?from=ga&id=2119
http://records.fai.org/pilot.asp?from=ga&id=2230
If you go to these sites you could see many of his records that were broken.
I still say if I won the Lotto, I'm taking him to Russia where we'll rent a Blackjack for a week and take back all his old records!
cheddar cheese
Major General
Very impressive Joe! Good info there 8)
