Hi-alt.german bomber used in N.Africa

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  1. starfish1

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    A german bomber,used to bomb from an (at 1st)unreachable altitude.Then the british modified a (?)Spitfire,which went up and shot it down.This type of hi-altitude plane was not seen again.Anyone know anything about this plane?Have no idea what it was.TIA
     
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    I assume you're talking about the Junkers Ju86R or P.
     
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    That is all I can think of but it was used after N. Afrika also.
     
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    Yes, it was the Ju-86. The Spitfire VI was developed to counter this threat but it wasn't from actions over North Africa. Britain first met the Ju-86 over Scotland - the Spitfire VI was developed from the Spitfire V to counter it.

    By the time the Ju-86 started seeing action over North Africa, the Spitfire VII was operational and able to counter it.
     
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    Yeah but the Ju-86 was seen again as it was used in every theatre of the War in Europe for a while.
     
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    thanx to everyone for the quick replies!
     
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    for sure it was ju-86p
     
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    Probably P though because the R was pretty much just a prototype.
     
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    :confused:

    As far as I know the R was put into service.....
     
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    Hmmm, I dunno, and I cant be arsed to find out :lol:
     
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    yes as far i know she saw service too........
     
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    I said it was P, because of article in some military aviation magazine that i've read a bit of time ago, which told, that only Ju-86P were used over Africa
     
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    Yes the R was put into service in limited numbers.

    Some 40 old bombers were converted to Ju 86P-1 high altitude bombers and Ju 86P-2 photo reconnaissance aircraft. Those operated successfully for some years over Britain, the Soviet Union and North Africa. In August 1942 a modified Spitfire V shot one down over Egypt, and when two more were lost, Ju 86Ps were withdrawn from service 1943.

    The Luftwaffe tried to develop the Ju 86R with even larger wings and prototype engines, that could have flown even higher, at 16,000 m, but production was limited to some prototypes.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_86
     
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    Im glad we agree Lanc....
     
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    There is a first for everythign isn't there?
     
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    actually this's becoming an incresingly frequent occourance..........
     
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    Maybe because you are becoming wiser! :D
     
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