highest kill ratio (12 Viewers)

[CHen10]

I personally talked about this with Kyösti...he said he scored 5 but run out of ammo on the sixth Il-2. He was extremely happy someone had actually seen it happen and remembered it.

Does this somehow refresh your hostile and uneducated attitude towards this case...or are you just trying to pull my leg ? I don't fully understand your hostility towards men in uniform but your attitude needs correctional acts pretty soon.

Sounds like Karhila was officially credited with damaging three IL-2s but many years later he misremembered and thought it was five IL-2s. Of course the way to see how many he actually damaged and maybe if any of them crashed is to look at the Soviet records for the relevant air regiments on that day. Maybe some of those IL-2s actually crashed and he did better than he thought! However until that research is done his official claim of three damaged is the one that stands since his memories decades later are unreliable.

 

[CHen10]

Thanks,
have to say this looks more like a combat report or an ORB entry for the day done at SQ level
Does the russian records have something similar to this? (HQ report , aggregation of all reports send ):
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Do you mean like a summary of the results of the divisions in that specific VA (Air Army)?

 

[andrewgeorge]

Sounds like Karhila was officially credited with damaging three IL-2s but many years later he misremembered and thought it was five IL-2s. Of course the way to see how many he actually damaged and maybe if any of them crashed is to look at the Soviet records for the relevant air regiments on that day. Maybe some of those IL-2s actually crashed and he did better than he thought! However until that research is done his official claim of three damaged is the one that stands since his memories decades later are unreliable.

I just want to point out too that the fact he remembers the action unfolding a certain way is itself important to know and understand, even if he was mistaken then or mistaken decades later.

Pilots' experiences and present sense impressions are part of the historical record too, and they're worth knowing about in their own right.