You mean the chart that Jank posted.The only chart I posted was a P-51B flight test chart. Which, by the way, is only one of many available, all with a tail numbers.
Whoops ! Sorry about that mate, I mistook that post as yours
The deviations of the chart you're talking about and the flight test data are disturbing and don't conform to typical engineering charts to performance.
Err, hows that ?
The charts you posted are Fw corporate charts that don't seem to specifically indicate that they contain flight test data, no tail number identified, no pilot identified, no discrete points noted. Do you have documentation that indicates these are really flight test results or or they engineering data. I must admit that the charts were fuzzy and I have to use a translator program.
I was actually talking about the P-51H charts.
All FW's charts are based on test-flights, and therefore they are never more than 4% off, that was the criteria at FW.
Okay, I used your data for the Fw-190D-9, your supplied chart for the P-51H, and my charts for the P-51B (1944) to generate the following chart:
Fw-190D-9 P-51H P-51B (1944)
Test Weight 9413 lbs (4270kg) 9544 (4329) 9680 (4472)
Empty Weight 7694 (3490) 6585 (2987) 6985 (3168)
Delta Weight 1719 (780) 2959 (1342) 2695 (1222)
Speed Max SL 380mph (612km/h) 400 (644) 371 (597)
Speed Max 436mph (702km/h) 453 (729) 442 (711)
Climb rate SL 4440 ft/min 4680 4350
Climb rate 16kft 3660 ft/min 3680 (18.7) 3580 (18.2)
climb to 10km 12.5 minutes 10 12.8
climb to 6km 5.4 4 6.4
Ceiling* 39k 41k 42k
Ceiling is not from flight test, but rather researched data.
I hope the chart works out. I have difficulties with charts. Please accept my appologies if it does not
Note that he tested weight over empty weight for the P-51H was over 2000 lbs more than the Fw-190D and the P-51B was carrying more than 1200 more. Imagine how the Fw-190Ds performance data would be impacted if it carried the same load weight.
This data shows what I said orginally.
The P-51H is faster at sea level and altitude, better climbing (and also has better power to weight ratio) and better ceiling. All of this while carrying 2000lb of bombs or fuel? I'll concede the turn. In fact it looks to me that the P-51B (1944 version) is quite comparable to the Fw-190D-9, especially at equivalent weight (although it doesn't have the firepower-perhaps balancing the weight difference with with a couple more 50 cals would work).
Using the data you supplied, I just don't see your justification to the superority of the Fw-190D-9 over the P-51H nor even more than slightly superior to the P-51B (1944 version).
So you still haven't convinced me with data. More attacks on the data?
davparlr, firstly how many P-51H's are there flying around today ?? And secondly lets take a look at what I said: "Nope, it wouldn't, and esp. not if my Dora's got GM-1, a D-12 prop and wheel doors, cause then I'd smoke any P-51 in a heartbeat. "
If you want it to be fair why not compare the P-51H to the Dora-12 (EB) ?
The Dora-12 (EB) will do approx. 25 m/s at SL, reach 10 km in approx. 9 min and hit 770+ km/h at 9.6 km.