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JAS 39 Gripen is growing up.... (1 Viewer)
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What a bunch of crap. Everything they talk about is already done by the F-35, arguably better) and they certainly don't explain how stealth has failed.
More hyperbolic garbage. Don't get me wrong. I like the Gripen - arguably it should be the F-5 of the 21st Century - but these videos come across as fanboy wanking, acting as though no other platform has the capabilities they credit, and fawn over, for the Gripen.
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There are some fanboys out there! 
As good and nice the '39 is, I'm a '35 Draken fanboy!
As for the stealth failing, I think that they explained it with the F-35 using its radar if I heard it right....
As good and nice the '39 is, I'm a '35 Draken fanboy!
As for the stealth failing, I think that they explained it with the F-35 using its radar if I heard it right....
The F-35 radar (be that the original AN/APG-81 or the newer AN/APG-85) is an extremely advanced sensor and one that incorporates low-probability-of-intercept (LPI) measures to avoid detection by passive radar detection. Arguably it is far in advance of the Raven ES-05 being planned for the Gripen E/F, let alone the PS-05/A in earlier versions.There are some fanboys out there!
As good and nice the '39 is, I'm a '35 Draken fanboy!
As for the stealth failing, I think that they explained it with the F-35 using its radar if I heard it right....
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....and still, neither has a kettle in it for coffee or tea!
As I've said umpteen times before, I'm convinced that, as fast technology evolves in aviation, something will show up that will make stealth a thing of the past, something that will no longer make stealth a selling point!
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Why is it that the compiler of those videos shows everything in mirror image?
As for my choice - Kenney beat the Japanese in the Pacific largely through his continuous destruction of Japanese airfields which maximised the allies air superiority. Those airfields could be fixed in a few hours with slave labour but the damaged aircraft on it were often permanently out of action. An F-35 airfield can not be fixed in hours and to damage every Gripen runway in an area is impossible. Repairing an F-35 that is shrapnel damaged is not an overnight task using semi skilled labour and duck tape tho the same probably applies to the Gripen. To maintain an F-35 takes a cast of dozens of fully trained experts but for the Gripen just conscripts.
For the cost of building a new airfield to support the F-35 you can buy a squadron of Gripen's and probably have a lot of change left over. and the cost of maintaining an F-35 will always be far higher than maintaining the Gripen.
As for my choice - Kenney beat the Japanese in the Pacific largely through his continuous destruction of Japanese airfields which maximised the allies air superiority. Those airfields could be fixed in a few hours with slave labour but the damaged aircraft on it were often permanently out of action. An F-35 airfield can not be fixed in hours and to damage every Gripen runway in an area is impossible. Repairing an F-35 that is shrapnel damaged is not an overnight task using semi skilled labour and duck tape tho the same probably applies to the Gripen. To maintain an F-35 takes a cast of dozens of fully trained experts but for the Gripen just conscripts.
For the cost of building a new airfield to support the F-35 you can buy a squadron of Gripen's and probably have a lot of change left over. and the cost of maintaining an F-35 will always be far higher than maintaining the Gripen.
Hmmm...let me introduce you to the F-35B. Also, even if you buy into the Saab sales pitch, remember that other aircraft can do what the Gripen does re road runways - see below for example:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KceRPomL04
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It isn't so unique despite the myth...
Yes, the same would apply to the Gripen and every other platform these days.
Don't take the Saab sales pitch too literally... Plus air forces these days pretty much have multiple well trained technicians so it is essentially a moot point.
Both the Swiss and Finnish authorities, as part of their respective competitions, argued that the F-35 was the best cost/benefit investment, if its full life-cycle economics were taken into account. Moreover, the Finnish Government's report on the HX competition, where Girpen E participated and Lightning II won, states that no bid was significantly less expensive than others in terms of operation and maintenance costs.
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I wonder who'll buy the Gripen next after Colombia getting 16....
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I have done a small amount of research into the F-35 (I tend to avoid ugly aircraft) and learned the B model can land vertically which is an item I was not aware of.
As to its maintainability the following BBC article suggests it the F-35 BITE (Built In Test Equipment) is not up to civil airliner standards.
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I have done a small amount of research into the F-35 (I tend to avoid ugly aircraft) and learned the B model can land vertically which is an item I was not aware of.As to its maintainability the following BBC article suggests it the F-35 BITE (Built In Test Equipment) is not up to civil airliner standards.
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