Kill Totals

[Stuka-99]

Yo they shot most they shot down were soviets weren't they?

 

[Stuka-99]

Hey how come finland sweden denmark and iceland have sort of the same flag but with different colours???

 

[a finn]

Stuka, you forgot Norway - and I read from somewhere that there's a cross in Finnish flag because it's a part of nordic flag tradition. Does that mean tha we have copied that from Sweden? Oh no!

 

[Stuka-99]

Yeah it must be that hey do ya like my spitfire xD???

 

[Stuka-99]

Do you hate each other the nordic countries????

 

[a finn]

8)

 

[Erich]

JG 51 : over 9,000 kills east and western fronts

JG 54 : 9,400 kills east and western fronts. In fact when III./JG 54 was stationed in Normandie in 1944, it had the highest number of Allied claims during the campaign. At the time it was equipped with the Fw 190A-8.

E ~

 

[Lightning Guy]

I appreciate the help with this. One of the things I am wondering about it that it seems to me that kill-loss ratios are often skewed. For example, many of the aircraft that have stats posted for did not see as much action or saw action against signigicantly inferior oppontents that tends to inflate their kill-loss ratios. Furthermore, when discussing such ratios, often ALL losses (weather, pilot error, collision, AA fire, and air-to-ait losses) are factored in. Obviously, the Tiffy and T-bolt will take considerably higher losses that an predominately air-to-air fighter like the Mustang. What are the thoughts about using enemy kills/ aircraft produced as a measure of judging effectiveness? Note that I do not believe ANY statistic can truly measure the effectiveness of an airplane but I feel this might be a more objective way of looking at things.

 

[GermansRGeniuses]

Hey a finn, that B-239 is Levl 24, correct? Oh yeah, I also saw that episode of Conan O'Brien. One more question, in Finland, do you learn FInnish and English in school-like in Germany-or did you learn on your own? (this question would more than likely be answered if I knew your age...)

 

[cheddar cheese]

8)

learning from the master eh?

 

[a finn]

GRG, both at school and myself, and as for the age question, I'm over 35 years old geezer. So, I'm really an Senior Airman
And yes that is LeLv 24 Brewster, Lt. Lauri Pekuri was the last man to fly it, it was shot down 25th of June 1942 and salvaged later (1998) from a lake in Karelia (Russia).
There was also something else I had in mind... Oh yes, Stuka, no we don't hate each other in nordic countries - there's just eternal rivalry between Finland and Sweden.

 

[Gizmo]

This is my first post here. So first I wanted to say Hi to all.

I have some information about Luftwaffe Geschwaders kills in total

JG 26 - 2726 (including about 200 over the Eastern Front)
JG 52 - ~10500 (including about 10200 over the Eastern Front)
JG 51 - 9350 (Including 8435 over the Eastern Front)
JG 54 - 9450 (including straffing attack, Including 8750 over the Eastern Front
JG 5 - 3300 (including 3000 over the Eastern Front)
JG 77 4505 (including 2830 over the Eastern Front and 497 over Africa)
JG 53 - 4000 (including 1685 over the Eastern Front )
JG 3 - 5860 (including 4810 over the Eastern Front )
JG 27 3033 (including 270 over the Eastern Front (1941)
JG-7 about 430 (Me-262 Unit !!)
NJG 1 - 2173 night + 145 day kills

USAAF claims over ETOand MTO), by a/c type :
P-51 4950
P-47 3082
P-38 1771 (also 1800 kills over PTO)
P-40 481
Spitfire 256
P-39 14
A-36 84
Beaufighter 24
P-61 58

 

[cheddar cheese]

I give thee a hearty welcome to the site from us all

 

[NightHawk]

whats the bigist body caount in 1 air engangement ???

 

[Karaya_1]

For Germany : Most kills during 1 sortie : 13 (Hpt. Erich Rudorffer 6.11.43 total kills : 222)
Most kills during 1 day : 18 (Olt. Emil Lang Dec.1943 total : 173)
Best kill ratio : 70 sorties 71 kills Lt. Günther Scheel (Russian front total : 71)

 

[Karaya_1]

Some more data :
German kills (Western Front) : 14.000 (+5000 at Night)
German losses (WF) : 13.000

German kills (Eastern Front) : 32.000
German losses (EF) : 4.000

German losses including a/c lost by flak !

(from : German Fighters in Color Profiles 1939-45)

 

[cheddar cheese]

Cool 8)

Best kill ratio : 70 sorties 71 kills Lt. Günther Scheel (Russian front total : 71)

On IL2 FB Ive got that well beaten, 59 kills in 28 sorties 8)

 

[Medvedya]

Yeah, with 'Realistic Gunnery' and 'Limited Ammo' switched off though....

 

[Adolf Galland]

are u talking about a game or something?

 

[Nonskimmer]

Yes, "IL2: Forgotten Battles" and "Pacific Fighters".
Both are WWII flight sims, in case you didn't know.