P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
Sounds great. These cadets seem hardcore. Alder, stupid question but the rifles in the pictures, are they actual rifles that use live ammo?
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Sounds great. These cadets seem hardcore. Alder, stupid question but the rifles in the pictures, are they actual rifles that use live ammo?
Yes, they are. They fire standard NATO 5.56 ammunition, but are specially modified not to be self-loading, and require re-cocking for each shot. They are otherwise basically the same as the L85A1 service rifle. (Which, incidentally, is universally regarded as a piece of utter junk.)
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The top one is the L85A1 Service Rifle, and below, the L98A1 Cadet Rifle. Good luck spotting the difference!
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The top one is the L85A1 Service Rifle, and below, the L98A1 Cadet Rifle. Good luck spotting the difference!
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Yeap as Ndicki said P38.
When we out playing war games we fired 5.56 blank ammunition of course but we fired the NATO 5.56 live rounds at the range many many times for qualification.
When we out playing war games we fired 5.56 blank ammunition of course but we fired the NATO 5.56 live rounds at the range many many times for qualification.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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how much air support do you want our marines to have! bear in mind their pilots also fly harriers and the marrines have fulkl support from all other naval air sqadrons........
Now I have finished cleaning the coffee off the monitor.
Back around 86 we did an ex with a bunch of Aussies, who had a small group of Aborigine trackers with them.
For some reason they were only issued with old Owen sub machine guns, and confessed to us later, they were never even issued with blank rounds let alone fired live ammo.
We set up a position, using 5 7.62 SLR's, 2 heavy barrel auto SLR's and one M-60 (yes we were heavy on weapons for the ex).
The trackers found us (of course) and decided to attack.
The Umpire was not impressed when we were overun by 12 trackers.
Reason was we were laughing to hard to bloody well fire back.
Ever seen an attack done by guys charging at you waving there little sub machine guns around and shouting "Bullet Bullet..... Bullet Bullet...." as they ran.
It was some sort of Twilight Zone thing. The first Idjit in our group started the shambles by shouting back "Oh no, the Bullet got me" and promptly collapsing over the 60.
It was downhill from there.
P38 Pilot
Tech Sergeant
Awesome. Its fun when you play with blanks giving you that realism.
P-38
Just remember why you are "playing" with those blanks.
It is not a coincidence that the targets you shoot live rounds at on the range are shaped like humans.
And I still prefer the old 7.62 SLR, at least you can chop the tree down if the mongrel is hiding behind it.
Just remember why you are "playing" with those blanks.
It is not a coincidence that the targets you shoot live rounds at on the range are shaped like humans.
And I still prefer the old 7.62 SLR, at least you can chop the tree down if the mongrel is hiding behind it.
The SLR was a good piece of kit - I could nail 18 inch square falling plates out to 300 yards with my own and generally get 5 out of 5. Got company shot once! Can't do that sort of shooting with this 5.56 rubbish. Never had trouble with stoppages - just needed cleaning properly, like any other rifle.
And when I saw one to buy - actually an FN FAL - I got it!
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And the realism of the real thing is not fun...
Dicki
I wandered into a Gun Shop while in the military and was having a graze around. Saw a "funny" looking SLR. When I got talking to the owner he said that no one wanted to buy it because of its looks.
I was just about peeing my pants trying not to laugh as I handed over $300.00 Kiwi Shekels to take it off his hands.
7.62 SLR, heavy barrel, with bipod.
Israeli woodstock foregrip.
1 x Section weapons kit.
2 x 20 round and 3 30 round magazines.
Full auto enabled.
The armourers back at base couldn't believe it when I signed in my new personal toy.
Considering that full auto is illegal in this country, it was a damn fine buy. When I left the Mob, I had it chopped up in front of me by the armourers.
Didn't want to think about it ending up with some Idjit.
I wandered into a Gun Shop while in the military and was having a graze around. Saw a "funny" looking SLR. When I got talking to the owner he said that no one wanted to buy it because of its looks.
I was just about peeing my pants trying not to laugh as I handed over $300.00 Kiwi Shekels to take it off his hands.
7.62 SLR, heavy barrel, with bipod.
Israeli woodstock foregrip.
1 x Section weapons kit.
2 x 20 round and 3 30 round magazines.
Full auto enabled.
The armourers back at base couldn't believe it when I signed in my new personal toy.
Considering that full auto is illegal in this country, it was a damn fine buy. When I left the Mob, I had it chopped up in front of me by the armourers.
Didn't want to think about it ending up with some Idjit.
Good one. I'd have had the thing neutralized rather than chop it up, though. Like I said above, all mine have been - I mean, what am I going to do in France with a working weapon? (Don't answer that, my wife'd get upset!)
But it's nice just to be able to hold one from time to time, strip it, etc. (!!)
But it's nice just to be able to hold one from time to time, strip it, etc. (!!)
mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
The more the better! That's a silly comment. Some of the guys here have been emphatically stating that brit forces are very short of helo support, as well as other air assets. If that's true, then obviously the system in place is not working.
Peace is a wonderful thing, isn't it! Never misses - wind down your armed forces to such a point that they are no longer capable of doing the job correctly, and then get into a war.
Someone should tell that a*se Blair - and ALL politicians - that being the best in the world is not going to make up indefinitely for inadequate kit and inadequate numbers. The Yanks, I'm afraid to say, seem to have remembered that better than our lot.
mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
unfortunately politicians do seem to think that the military can be disbanded if it's peacetime - save some more money for an expanded social welfare program!
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Our military is feeling the cuts from the draw down after the cold war as well though. Not eneogh troops and funding has been cut drastically until recently.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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i agree for the most part but then again buddying up to the yanks is anything but a bad move, we get less of the hatred america get but we've got one of the strongest alliances the modern world has ever seen, whilst we generally go on the offensive together if you were to attack Britain, you're almost garanteed to get America involved................
Matt308
Glock Perfection
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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if you mean you now think i love all things american, you can sleep in comfort tonight safe in the knowledge i don't i just think that being the best friend of the world's biggest power's a damn good idea!
i just think that being the best friend of the world's biggest power's a damn good idea!
Matt308
Glock Perfection
So you are an equal opportunity whore which sleeps with whoever holds the biggest gun? You better start learning Chinese. 
