Most Accurate War Film

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  1. Njaco

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    After watching Private Ryan I was wondering what would be the next most realistic war movie? Any thoughts? And before I get slammed about how inaccurate the movie was (yes I know about the Mustangs at the end) I thought it was better researched than other movies I've seen .. like... Pearl harbor...GAK!
     
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    "Pearl Harbor" was terrible, great point. Was so bad I dubbed my own lines in about mid way through. Got to be a really funny movie after that.

    Tough call on accuracy. Making a movie means it has to be dramatic, keeps people interested. Things in the military are intentionally undramatic so that everyone does their jobs and does them well. Individualism is not focused on as it is in the movies. As a consequence, the technical points of a movie can be accurate while the story is out to lunch.

    A better question might be "What movies are technically accurate from a historical perspective?". Plenty of them. "Platoon" (had all the right equipment and uniforms, scenery looked right), "Thin Red Line" (same). "The Enemy Below" (ships were the stars of the movie, even if some shots were obviously models), "Glory". There are plenty of movies that are technically accurate.

    Good history is another question.
     
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    "Thin Red Line" made me sick. All the hype about the director and then the actors acted like they were all gonna win an Oscar. Ugh! But "historically", yer right. But direction and acting sucked on both Pearl and Red Line. :|
     
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    I never even watched Pearl Harbor. Ben Afflick makes me ill just looking at him. What did they do that was not accurate?
     
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    Out of the movies I own or have seen battle of britain to a point.
     
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    Well Thor, among numerous faults the most that killed me was...

    An American flyer that fights in the Battle of Britain then is stationed at Pearl during the Japanese attack then gets to fly a bomber during Doolittle's raid!

    It actually started for me with the cropduster in the beginning that wasn't even built at the time they were depicting!

    I could have read Harry Potter and come up with the same movie.
     
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    Heres acouple to discuss:

    Tobruk
    Sahara
    Raid On Rommel
    The Desert Rats

    Sink the Bismark
    Battle of the River Platte
    The Enemy Below

    Battle of the Bulge
    Battleground
    The Longest day
    A Bridge Too Far

    Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo
    Tora, Tora, Tora
    Midway
    Bataan
    Sands of Iwo Jima

    Platoon
    Hamburger Hill
    Full Metal jacket
    Charlie Mopic
    Go Tell the Spartans
    Boys From Company C

    I guess thats enough for now. :rolleyes:
     
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    What about:

    The Great Raid
    Saints and Soldiers*
    the Scicily movie with John Wayne
    I second "A Bridge Too Far"

    *Not neccessarily completely true story, but they do a good job of showing good battle scences and what its like being on the run.
     
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    .... and downing a MiG over Toko-Ri with a Stinson! :lol:
     
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    Hands down, Das Boot. With subtitles. Not the overdubbed version. Absolutely captivating. Next would be A Band of Brothers. And I really liked a Thin Red Line. What haunts me from that movie was the tall grass blowing in the wind. Scary as hell.
     
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    I remember that flick! Boy, did that guy stink as an actor. Sad excuse for a movie.
     
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    Oh. And The Bridge of the River Kwai. Excellent.
     
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    Two good ones. Band and Das.

    Remember the scene with the blowing grass. Right after the two scouts got popped. Very haunting scene. The director (Terrence something or other) is famous for his use of nature to move the movie along. He did have some interesting ideas in there, great shots. But failed with the internal dialogue from the characters.

    In truth, it is very hard book to make into a movie. James Jones wrote a very good book (also wrote "From Here to Eternety"). "The Thin Red Line" has had 2x shots at being a movie. Neither one hit it. Same problem could be said for "Catch 22" or "Heart of Darkness" (Apocolypse Now). Great books, almost impossible to do as a movie.
     
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    Wow! How could I forget "Das Boot". Awesome pic.

    How about semi-war:

    No Man's Land
    Tears of the Sun
    Hunt for Red October
    The Beast

    Trying to keep a historically accurate list :)

    The War Lover
    12 o'clock High
    Enemy at the Gates
    Stalingrad
     
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    Hunt for Red October? Certainly not the movie. Book was great though. That was back when Clancy actually wrote his own books.
     
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    Speaking of accuracy, donĀ“t you guys think the siren of the Stukas attacking all those small ships and boats trying to cross the Volga laden with soldiers should have been way more noisier?

    Having read so many things, especially about the eastern front, is that you can tell that when Stukas were aiming directly at your position, the screaming siren would not even let you hear the yelling of your fellow soldiers around you.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEqP4_cZ5I
     
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    You don't really believe that do you Udet? A diving aircraft with a mechanical siren that is louder than your mate can shout right next to you. That would be lound indeed. And thus cannot possibly be true.
     
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    Pork Chop Hill with Gregory Peck was pretty good also...
     
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    Matt, i am not sure; that is why i am asking.

    Did you see the movie part?

    I have German footage of the eastern front, where a Stuka attack against soviet positions is under way; the German camera is located between some panzers and German troops laying on the ground waiting for the Stukas to conduct their attack.

    You can see the explosions of the Stuka bombs in the distance, and it was my calculation the soviet positions under dive bombing attack were ~1.5km away from where the camera is; you can clearly detect the sirens, so it is not daring to affirm the soviet soldiers which were under attack were certainly experiencing something very very loud.

    If you see Stuka attack films, there are many times when you can realize these planes pulled out of the dive real close to the ground, as it is shown in that part of Enemy at the Gates.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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