Most Inaccurate War Film

[syscom3]

F-5 Tigers being called Mig-28s which also never exsisted.

So because the producers couldnt get Soviet fighters to use in the movie, it becomes inaccurate?

At least on the F5's they used the right color of red to use on the stars.

 

[comiso90]

F-5 Tigers being called Mig-28s which also never exsisted.

I don't see that as inaccurate. That is a realistic production decision. The false MiG moniker describes the faux MiG. It's obvious that they had to use actual jets. Would you prefer that they call the F-5's MiG 25's?

What alternatives would you offer? Which aggressor aircraft would you rather see?

If the studios are confined to using actual aircraft I suppose the bad guys could be flying Cessna 210's!

"Look out Goose, you have a Cessna on your tail!"

 

[Njaco]

"Hold him off, my slingshots not ready!"

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

So because the producers couldnt get Soviet fighters to use in the movie, it becomes inaccurate?

At least on the F5's they used the right color of red to use on the stars.

No dont make this into something bigger than it is just because you like argueing.

You asked what was innacurate. I answered you by saying that Mig-28s never existed and for the fictional jet they used F-5s.

I never said the movie was that innacurate...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I don't see that as inaccurate. That is a realistic production decision. The false MiG moniker describes the faux MiG. It's obvious that they had to use actual jets. Would you prefer that they call the F-5's MiG 25's?

What alternatives would you offer? Which aggressor aircraft would you rather see?

If the studios are confined to using actual aircraft I suppose the bad guys could be flying Cessna 210's!

"Look out Goose, you have a Cessna on your tail!"

Read my post above to syscom...

 

[comiso90]

Read my post above to syscom...

Symantics on the "accuracy"

I've heard many people scoff at the same facts that u pointed out.

 

[Matt308]

I believe it happened in the mid-80s gainst Libia. Old fashioned dogfight without missiles. Well, old fashioned because I think we shot them down in seconds but only with guns.

Not true. In both instances they were shot down with missiles. Two Su-22 Fitters hit with Sidewinders. And two MiG-23s hit with a Sparrow and the other with a Sidewinder.

 

[Njaco]

ok, my faulty memory. I thought that it was close-in combat. I'll stay away from the modern stuff.

I don't mind them trying to get it right. "The Blue Max" used converted bi-planes to at least "look" like DVIIs and SE 5s. Its not easy getting ahold of the real thing for movies including the USA.

 

[Njaco]

Speaking of Russian aircraft and movies, was that a real Russian Helo and tank in the movie "The Beast" with George Dzunda and Jason patrick?

 

[Matt308]

Hmmm. Never heard of that one.

 

[Matt308]

Apparently an Aerospatiale SA.321 Super Frelon. Was the movie any good?

 

[Cyrano]

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Symantics on the "accuracy"

I've heard many people scoff at the same facts that u pointed out.

Never said it was a bad movie...

 

[Njaco]

Pretty good movie. Didn't go too heavy with Russian and Afghan sterotypes and had to throw in a political dig here and there but otherwise a good enjoyable war film. Matt, if you get a chance to see it don't pass it up. Not a bad way to spend an afternoon.

 

[Cyrano]

 

[syscom3]

The tank commander in "The Beast" told his crew he was a Stalingrad veteran.

Somehow, the age of this charchter wouldnt have added up to the age in real life if that had happened.

 

[timshatz]

The tank commander in "The Beast" told his crew he was a Stalingrad veteran.

Somehow, the age of this charchter wouldnt have added up to the age in real life if that had happened.

Yeah, I remember doing the same thing. I came up with an age somewhere in the 55ish years old area. And that is if he were 14 at Stalingrad.

 

[timshatz]

9th Company was pretty awful. As a war film it was sometimes enjoyable, but fighting scenes were just horrible. Mujahedeen fighters attack uphill against Russian 12.7mm gun emplacements without taking cover and shooting AK's without aiming a bit, a Russian slaughters half of them using a PKM with one hand...

We had Rambo, they get "The 9th Company". Both trying to refight and win the wars they lost. The Rambo series was pretty bad too.

 

[rogthedodge]

FWIW 'First Blood' - the original rambo - book wasn't bad and concentrated on the PTSD aspects of the Vietnam experience, but then Hollywood / Stallone got involved.....

On the F-5's I'm fairly sure they were the aircraft flown by the USAF squadron who were used to mimic SovPac units tactics in training. They sported Russian colour schemes insignia - the film probably just borrowed this squadron.

 

[Njaco]

Yeah, I remember doing the same thing. I came up with an age somewhere in the 55ish years old area. And that is if he were 14 at Stalingrad.

If I remember, the tank commander character did say he was a kid working both sides, similar to the kid in the "Stalingrad" movie.