Mystery Wagon

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  1. Junkers88A1

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    does anybody have any idea what this Luftwaffe wagon was used for..its laying in the forrest near what was a former luftwaffe base during WW2 ( now active AF base )

    maybe somebody has seen something similar in photos or something....
     

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    Hard to get a sense of the scale from the pics, but it looks to me like some kind of trolley, maybe used as a mobile workbench or for moving parts around?
     
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    It looks to be pretty sturdy and made up quality materials to be in as good of shape as it is after being exposed to the elements all these years.
     
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    ...and quite specialist
    I'm curious what that centre piece is with the holes drilled in a circle. The central 'shelf' stops short of the far end, possibly indicating end storage for tall equipment. Looks like something that could be wheeled to an aircraft, then jacked up on those metal feet to stop it moving around. That might imply heavy servicing or machine work. Or it might imply nothing of the sort.

    I had a good trawl through my German stuff, to see if I could catch one in the background, nothing found.
     
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    Looks like a tool or maintenance cart of some type. Very interesting.
     
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    get it picked up and brought back to your museum. Properly refurbished, it might make a rare piece. Get hold of a metal detector and see what else they left behind...
     
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    #7 Junkers88A1, May 28, 2010
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    it does have these two strange pendels in the middle.. so as you said..its for somthing big and sturdy..i was first thinking enginewagon.. but i dont see how the engine will fit with those two large steelbars in the middle of the wagon and the two arms holding the bars.. a Db 601 or a BMW 801 will easily fit in that wagon..if one removes the bars in there.. but really no idea what its for

    and hey..metaldetector there ?? it will just go beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.. its 200 german aircrafts buried there :)
    and that is no joke..it was over 200 german planes thatw as chooped up and buried at this airfield after the war :) so no use with a metal detector,,digging is enough :)

    i also posted some more pics of the site here at this thread.. but i thought more would see the wagon here and get more answers..the whole area is filled with parts.. all over the place..

    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/ba...ircraft-parts-indiana-22641-3.html#post674372

    and i am thinking about getting it out of the wood.. lots of work but might work.. just not sure how yet..hehe
     
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    I need a holiday. In Norway.
     
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    i have a picture in the museum of the airfield as it was in may 1945 before the allied came and chopped up the aircrafts and buried them at this airfield..i will post that picture tomorow :)
    its quite a sight :)
     
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    #10 Junkers88A1, May 28, 2010
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    this is one of atleast 10 sites i have located at the Af base with the planes buried.. one can spot a Fw 190 and a Ju 87 inbetween all the wrecks.. they were bulldozed over and finally buried.. will post another shot tomorow before the destruction.. i also know that i have somewhere the chpooing of off a Fw 200 condor and a Bf 410,,and huge piles of burning planes before they were bulldozed into the grounds..

    some places like the previous pics in the digging thread parts are laying up in the open..

    4 flakpositions overgrown in there also..the biggest problem today is that the forrest had reclaimed the land and its a huge rootsystem one has to almost use dynamite to get thru before we get down to the fun parts :(

    look to 2oclock and yous ee a Ju 87 upside down.. the Fw 190 is at 12oclock..there is also a german staffcar there in the bottom.. folkswagon i think..
    and a ju88 fuselage,,boken,,and who knows what else
    so what will a metaldetector do god here ? lol :)

    i can not verify 100% that this picture is the same area but its similiar to what happenend here.. and acording to a eyewitness who still works at the museum and took part in the destrction and burying of the aircrafts has told me that this looks just like what they did.. in 10 places in the sorrounding area
    and the types of aircrafts here is also matching the types buried..and also the landscape..and i have been told this is a picture from the actuall site
     

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    After that pic, I'll join ya!!!!!
     
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    if i look at the wheels it must have been something that was used n hard ground only. So perhaps nothing to do with maintenance directly on the field.
     
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    Thats the only wild guess I'd have.... maybe in a hangar or something? Since it was used on hard surfaces?
     
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    Certainly looks like a servicing platform or similar - like those 'scissor lifts' seen at modern airports. It also has the appearance of a 'side tipper', as used in mining. BTW Guttorm, I'll be arriving at 10:00 hrs tomorrow............
     
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    great. looking forward to see you airframes :)
     
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    T, I'll be arriving a little before your flight to hop in your suitcase :lol: :lol:
     
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    Very intersting cart there GF, very rugged frame designed to take some weight. Note tires they are not very big nor wide. This was designed from the looks of it to be on pavement. Once in place breaks to be applied to make the cart stationary.

    Question is for what? Hummm~~~
     
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    A Hippocroccofrog disposal unit??!!!
     
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    Nice one Terry,

    Terry, take a closer look at it. We have all said that its very heavy from the massive frame but look there is no trailer hitch that we can see to pull it around. I couldnt imagine moving an engine, weapons, bombs and stuff around on it if you had to push it very far.

    Gunther, could you take a picture of the top of the cart as if it where standing up. Im curious to see the top or is it solid piece of steel. Any type of hitch on it to pull it around?

    Thanks Paul
     
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