NFL 2009 Thread

[ToughOmbre]

Football has one thing that peeves me they never play the Superbowl in the winter states outdoors it just ain't right. Whats good in the regular season should be good for the playoffs

I agree. Bothers me too. It's the only championship of a major pro sport played at a neutral site. But with the spectacle it has become and the money involved, it will never change.

TO

 

[ToughOmbre]

However the Cowboys went 3 times in the 90s and won all 3 times, and the 49ers went 2 times in the 90s and won both times. That makes 50% of the decade and 50% of the decade won.

Small correction. The 49ers only won one in the 90s (1994).

The other four were in the 80s ('81, '84, '88, '89).

Here's the complete list of NFL Champions 1922 - 2008

2008 NFL Super Bowl XLIII: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,12-4) defeated Arizona Cardinals (NFC,9-7), Score: 27-23
2007 NFL Super Bowl XLII: New York Giants (NFC,10-6) defeated New England Patriots (AFC,16-0), Score: 17-14
2006 NFL Super Bowl XLI: Indianapolis Colts (AFC,12-4) defeated Chicago Bears (NFC,13-3), Score: 29-17
2005 NFL Super Bowl XL: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,11-5) defeated Seattle Seahawks (NFC,13-3), Score: 21-10
2004 NFL Super Bowl XXXIX: New England Patriots (AFC,14-2) defeated Philadelphia Eagles (NFC,13-3), Score: 24-21
2003 NFL Super Bowl XXXVIII: New England Patriots (AFC,14-2) defeated Carolina Panthers (NFC,11-5), Score: 32-29
2002 NFL Super Bowl XXXVII: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFC,12-4) defeated Oakland Raiders (AFC,11-5), Score: 48-21
2001 NFL Super Bowl XXXVI: New England Patriots (AFC,11-5) defeated St. Louis Rams (NFC,14-2), Score: 20-17
2000 NFL Super Bowl XXXV: Baltimore Ravens (AFC,12-4) defeated New York Giants (NFC,12-4), Score: 34-7
1999 NFL Super Bowl XXXIV: St. Louis Rams (NFC,13-3) defeated Tennessee Titans (AFC,13-3), Score: 23-16
1998 NFL Super Bowl XXXIII: Denver Broncos (AFC,14-2) defeated Atlanta Falcons (NFC,14-2), Score: 34-19
1997 NFL Super Bowl XXXII: Denver Broncos (AFC,12-4) defeated Green Bay Packers (NFC,13-3), Score: 31-24
1996 NFL Super Bowl XXXI: Green Bay Packers (NFC,13-3) defeated New England Patriots (AFC,11-5), Score: 35-21
1995 NFL Super Bowl XXX: Dallas Cowboys (NFC,12-4) defeated Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,11-5), Score: 27-17
1994 NFL Super Bowl XXIX: San Francisco 49ers (NFC,13-3) defeated San Diego Chargers (AFC,11-5), Score: 49-26
1993 NFL Super Bowl XXVIII: Dallas Cowboys (NFC,12-4) defeated Buffalo Bills (AFC,12-4), Score: 30-13
1992 NFL Super Bowl XXVII: Dallas Cowboys (NFC,13-3) defeated Buffalo Bills (AFC,11-5), Score: 52-17
1991 NFL Super Bowl XXVI: Washington Redskins (NFC,14-2) defeated Buffalo Bills (AFC,13-3), Score: 37-24
1990 NFL Super Bowl XXV: New York Giants (NFC,13-3) defeated Buffalo Bills (AFC,13-3), Score: 20-19
1989 NFL Super Bowl XXIV: San Francisco 49ers (NFC,14-2) defeated Denver Broncos (AFC,11-5), Score: 55-10
1988 NFL Super Bowl XXIII: San Francisco 49ers (NFC,10-6) defeated Cincinnati Bengals (AFC,12-4), Score: 20-16
1987 NFL Super Bowl XXII: Washington Redskins (NFC,11-4) defeated Denver Broncos (AFC,10-4-1), Score: 42-10
1986 NFL Super Bowl XXI: New York Giants (NFC,14-2) defeated Denver Broncos (AFC,11-5), Score: 39-20
1985 NFL Super Bowl XX: Chicago Bears (NFC,15-1) defeated New England Patriots (AFC,11-5), Score: 46-10
1984 NFL Super Bowl XIX: San Francisco 49ers (NFC,15-1) defeated Miami Dolphins (AFC,14-2), Score: 38-16
1983 NFL Super Bowl XVIII: Los Angeles Raiders (AFC,12-4) defeated Washington Redskins (NFC,14-2), Score: 38-9
1982 NFL Super Bowl XVII: Washington Redskins (NFC,8-1) defeated Miami Dolphins (AFC,7-2), Score: 27-17
1981 NFL Super Bowl XVI: San Francisco 49ers (NFC,13-3) defeated Cincinnati Bengals (AFC,12-4), Score: 26-21
1980 NFL Super Bowl XV: Oakland Raiders (AFC,11-5) defeated Philadelphia Eagles (NFC,12-4), Score: 27-10
1979 NFL Super Bowl XIV: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,12-4) defeated Los Angeles Rams (NFC,9-7), Score: 31-19
1978 NFL Super Bowl XIII: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,14-2) defeated Dallas Cowboys (NFC,12-4), Score: 35-31
1977 NFL Super Bowl XII: Dallas Cowboys (NFC,12-2) defeated Denver Broncos (AFC,12-2), Score: 27-10
1976 NFL Super Bowl XI: Oakland Raiders (AFC,13-1) defeated Minnesota Vikings (NFC,11-2-1), Score: 32-14
1975 NFL Super Bowl X: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,12-2) defeated Dallas Cowboys (NFC,10-4), Score: 21-17
1974 NFL Super Bowl IX: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC,10-3-1) defeated Minnesota Vikings (NFC,10-4), Score: 16-6
1973 NFL Super Bowl VIII: Miami Dolphins (AFC,12-2) defeated Minnesota Vikings (NFC,12-2), Score: 24-7
1972 NFL Super Bowl VII: Miami Dolphins (AFC,14-0) defeated Washington Redskins (NFC,11-3), Score: 14-7
1971 NFL Super Bowl VI: Dallas Cowboys (NFC,11-3) defeated Miami Dolphins (AFC,10-3-1), Score: 24-3
1970 NFL Super Bowl V: Baltimore Colts (AFC,11-2-1) defeated Dallas Cowboys (NFC,10-4), Score: 16-13
1969 NFL AFL Super Bowl IV: Kansas City Chiefs (AFL,11-3) defeated Minnesota Vikings (NFL,12-2), Score: 23-7
1968 NFL AFL Super Bowl III: New York Jets (AFL,11-3) defeated Baltimore Colts (NFL,13-1), Score: 16-7
1967 NFL AFL Super Bowl II: Green Bay Packers (NFL,9-4-1) defeated Oakland Raiders (AFL,13-1), Score: 33-14
1966 NFL AFL Super Bowl I: Green Bay Packers (NFL,12-2) defeated Kansas City Chiefs (AFL,11-2-1), Score: 35-10

1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,10-3-1)
1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (NFL,10-3-1)
1963 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,11-1-2)
1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,13-1)
1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,11-3)
1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (NFL,10-2)
1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (NFL,9-3)
1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (NFL,9-3)
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (NFL,8-4)
1956 NFL New York Giants (NFL,8-3-1)
1955 NFL Cleveland Browns (NFL,9-2-1)
1954 NFL Cleveland Browns (NFL,9-3)
1953 NFL Detroit Lions (NFL,10-2)
1952 NFL Detroit Lions (NFL,9-3)
1951 NFL Los Angeles Rams (NFL,8-4)
1950 NFL Cleveland Browns (NFL,10-2)
1949 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (NFL,11-1)
1948 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (NFL,9-2-1)
1947 NFL Chicago Cardinals (NFL,9-3)
1946 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,8-2-1)
1945 NFL Cleveland Rams (NFL,9-1)
1944 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,8-2)
1943 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,8-1-1)
1942 NFL Washington Redskins (NFL,10-1)
1941 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,10-1)
1940 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,8-3)
1939 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,9-2)
1938 NFL New York Giants (NFL,8-2-1)
1937 NFL Washington Redskins (NFL,8-3)
1936 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,10-1-1)
1935 NFL Detroit Lions (NFL,7-3-2)
1934 NFL New York Giants (NFL,8-5)
1933 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,10-2-1)
1932 NFL Chicago Bears (NFL,7-1-6)
1931 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,12-2)
1930 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,10-3-1)
1929 NFL Green Bay Packers (NFL,12-0-1)
1928 NFL Providence Steam Roller (NFL,8-1-2)
1927 NFL New York Giants (NFL,11-1-1)
1926 NFL Frankford Yellow Jackets (NFL,14-1-2)
1925 NFL Chicago Cardinals (NFL,11-2-1)
1924 NFL Cleveland Bulldogs (NFL,7-1-1)
1923 NFL Canton Bulldogs (NFL,11-0-1)
1922 NFL Canton Bulldogs (NFL,10-0-2)

TO

 

[diddyriddick]

imagine they would but they don't have 7 hall of famers playing on the same team and 4 staright Super bowl appearances thats 40%of the decade that they were the AFC team

And they lost. The best means winning.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Small correction. The 49ers only won one in the 90s (1994).

The other four were in the 80s ('81, '84, '88, '89).

Negative.

Super Bowl XXIV between the San Francisco 49ers and Denver Broncos (55-10 for SF) was played on January 28, 1990 at the Louisiana Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana. It was the 1989 season, but the Super Bowl was played in 1990.

Here are all of the 49ers Super Bowls:

Super Bowl XVI - January 24, 1982, SF 26-21 Bengals
Super Bowl XIX - January 20, 1985, SF 38-16 Dolphins
Super Bowl XXIII - January 22, 1989, SF 20-16 Bengals
Super Bowl XXIV - January 28, 1990, SF 55-10 Broncos
Super Bowl XXIX - January 29, 1995, SF 49-26 Chargers

Super Bowl 43 Super Bowl History

 

[pbfoot]

And they lost. The best means winning.

Yep they did , wonder how many Cowboy fans would show up to a game outside in Buffalo in winter . Remember that Buffalo is only a city of 500,000 and they fill it up to 80,000 every week

 

[Messy1]

Yep they did , wonder how many Cowboy fans would show up to a game outside in Buffalo in winter . Remember that Buffalo is only a city of 500,000 and they fill it up to 80,000 every week

Hear you there! I went to a 49ers/Broncos new years game a few years ago in Denver! Man that was cold! Be willing to bet NE East coast would be worse!

 

[diddyriddick]

Yep they did , wonder how many Cowboy fans would show up to a game outside in Buffalo in winter . Remember that Buffalo is only a city of 500,000 and they fill it up to 80,000 every week

And?

How does that make Buffalo the team of the 90s?

 

[pbfoot]

And?

How does that make Buffalo the team of the 90s?

The Bills won 105 games in the 90's the the Dallas Fudgepackers won 101 ,

 

[ToughOmbre]

It was the 1989 season, but the Super Bowl was played in 1990.

Exactly my point, it was the 1989 season. As you know Super Bowls are always played in the year following the season of record.

I always give the 49ers credit for winning four in the '80s.

We might be splitting hairs here but I like to reference seasons for historical purposes, not Super Bowl dates.

For example, when talking about great defenses, nobody ever talks about the '86 Bears.

It's the '85 Bears.

Pro Football Reference. com's list (which I copied in a previous post).

Pro Football NFL History | Pro-Football-Reference.com

TO

 

[diddyriddick]

The Bills won 105 games in the 90's the the Dallas Fudgepackers won 101 ,

And the Bills got hammered in the most important games they played, twice by the Cowboys. To borrow a phrase from Lombardi, winning isn't everything, it is the ONLY thing.

I don't mean to minimize the achievements of those Bills teams. But they were not the team of the nineties.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The Bills won 105 games in the 90's the the Dallas Fudgepackers won 101 ,

If you really want to go that rout, the 49ers won 113 games in the 90s.

You can call the Bills the best team of the 90s all you want, but it just ain't true...

I don't mean to minimize the achievements of those Bills teams. But they were not the team of the nineties.

Or any other decade...

Exactly my point, it was the 1989 season. As you know Super Bowls are always played in the year following the season of record.

I always give the 49ers credit for winning four in the '80s.

We might be splitting hairs here but I like to reference seasons for historical purposes, not Super Bowl dates.

For example, when talking about great defenses, nobody ever talks about the '86 Bears.

It's the '85 Bears.

Pro Football Reference. com's list (which I copied in a previous post).

Pro Football NFL History | Pro-Football-Reference.com

TO

I hear what you are saying, and I agree with you. But if you actually want to talk decades it was 3 in the 80s and 2 in the 90s for all intensive purposes.

But as I said, you are correct...

 

[pbfoot]

Until I mentioned the Bills it seemed every other team except the Bills were mentioned I believe they are overlooked they may not have been the best team buy at least an honouable mention is deserved . They have a horrible record but still sell out in weather that would terrorize a Cowboy fan .
Now to lighten the moment
What did the Bills fan do when they won the Super Bowl ?
He turned off his Playstation

First day at school and the little grade 3's kids were asked about their parents profession. ""My dad is a builder"…"My Mum is a lawyer"…and then the little guy said "Daddy is a stripper in the red light district, he goes out to work every night and comes back in the morning". Everybody was shocked and at the end of the class the teacher came to the boy to figure this out. "Is that what your father really does for living?" And the boy answered "No, actually he is a Bills player but it is so embarrassing to me to say so

 

[B-17engineer]

Until I mentioned the Bills it seemed every other team except the Bills were mentioned I believe they are overlooked they may not have been the best team buy at least an honouable mention is deserved . They have a horrible record but still sell out in weather that would terrorize a Cowboy fan .
Now to lighten the moment
What did the Bills fan do when they won the Super Bowl ?
He turned off his Playstation

First day at school and the little grade 3's kids were asked about their parents profession. ""My dad is a builder"…"My Mum is a lawyer"…and then the little guy said "Daddy is a stripper in the red light district, he goes out to work every night and comes back in the morning". Everybody was shocked and at the end of the class the teacher came to the boy to figure this out. "Is that what your father really does for living?" And the boy answered "No, actually he is a Bills player but it is so embarrassing to me to say so

LMAO

 

[diddyriddick]

Until I mentioned the Bills it seemed every other team except the Bills were mentioned I believe they are overlooked they may not have been the best team buy at least an honouable mention is deserved . They have a horrible record but still sell out in weather that would terrorize a Cowboy fan .
Now to lighten the moment
What did the Bills fan do when they won the Super Bowl ?
He turned off his Playstation

First day at school and the little grade 3's kids were asked about their parents profession. ""My dad is a builder"…"My Mum is a lawyer"…and then the little guy said "Daddy is a stripper in the red light district, he goes out to work every night and comes back in the morning". Everybody was shocked and at the end of the class the teacher came to the boy to figure this out. "Is that what your father really does for living?" And the boy answered "No, actually he is a Bills player but it is so embarrassing to me to say so

Now that is funny!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Now to lighten the moment
What did the Bills fan do when they won the Super Bowl ?
He turned off his Playstation

First day at school and the little grade 3's kids were asked about their parents profession. ""My dad is a builder"…"My Mum is a lawyer"…and then the little guy said "Daddy is a stripper in the red light district, he goes out to work every night and comes back in the morning". Everybody was shocked and at the end of the class the teacher came to the boy to figure this out. "Is that what your father really does for living?" And the boy answered "No, actually he is a Bills player but it is so embarrassing to me to say so

On to this weeks picks:

Last Week: 8-6
Overall: 58-31

This weeks picks:

Indianapolis Colts 33-6 St. Louis Rams
New England Patriots 44-7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Pittsburgh Steelers 21-14 Minnesota Vikings
San Diego Chargers 13-10 Kansas City Chiefs
Green Bay Packers 24-21 Cleveland Browns
San Francisco 49ers 33-21 Houston Texans
Carolina Panthers 17-10 Buffalo Bills
New York Jets 21-17 Oakland Raiders
Atlanta Falcons 20-14 Dallas Cowboys
New Orleans Saints 30-20 Miami Dolphins
Chicago Bears 27-24 Cincinnati Bengals (overtime)
New York Giants 31-14 Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles 27-9 Washington Redskins

 

[Coors9]

Brees is "player of the week" for third time this season. 5:00 my time they hit the warm grass of Miami. Hope they keep the ball rolling along.

Scary time to play the Texans after last week. I have a feeling the 49'ers need to have their "A" game today. Good luck to them.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

49ers will be just fine. They will not embarrass themselves again this week. Singletary tore them a new ******* after that performance last week. The D will be back to playing smashmouth in your face football and Gore is back as well.

My only worry is the offense line. If the O-Line holds up and protects the QB, the Niners should be able to win it.

 

[B-17engineer]

you have the Jets beating the raiders by only 4 point!

Well with there luck, they'll loose by 40 points.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

you have the Jets beating the raiders by only 4 point!

Yeah, you might want to check out the Jets. The offense is not that great at the moment, and this is the same Raiders that beat the Eagles last week...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Well so much for that...

The Niners are back to their old ways. No pass defense, no offense line and no offense all together...

Houston is up 21-0 in the 2nd Qtr.