Lucky13
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Never seen this one before!
Odd camouflage....
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mikewint
Captain
Not any kind of expert but it looks to be 15 cm Schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33/1 auf Selbstfahrlafette 38(t) (Sf) Ausf. H (Sd.Kfz. 138/1). Commonly referred to as a Grille (Cricket) Ausf.H based on the Czech built (38)t chassis.
As to the cammo ???? Never seen the Germans use straight-line geometric figure cammo
As to the cammo ???? Never seen the Germans use straight-line geometric figure cammo
at6
1st Sergeant
Photo shopped maybe?
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
Could be urban camo, though I have not found a real pic showing anything like that.
mikewint
Captain
I'd put the Ranch up, tis a German WWII Grille Ausf.H
I don't see anything!
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
No doubt it's a Grille, but it could very well be post war in somebody else's army.
I will say the 38(t) chassis was pretty versatile. I am still holding out hope of owning a Marder III and or a Hetzer one day.
I will say the 38(t) chassis was pretty versatile. I am still holding out hope of owning a Marder III and or a Hetzer one day.
mikewint
Captain
That is a possibility I had not considered. The picture is from a posting on Flickr by Panzer DB and he has posted 45 pictures of the little Grille and all appear to be German WWII. The German on the picture (some of it is missing) WIE EIN FLO(H) ABER OH(O??) ... Would seem to say "LIKE ONE ESCAPED BUT OH WELL" my colloquial German is not all that proficient so ???? The Cammo is weird but I still think German WWII era
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Without seeing the rest of the words for context, I unfortunately can not translate it.
Floh can mean flea or escape/fled.
Grille by the way means Cricket.
Floh can mean flea or escape/fled.
Grille by the way means Cricket.
mikewint
Captain
Jim, whenever that happens you'll want to check two things: #1. Is there anything covering your eyes and #2 Are your eyes open?
mikewint
Captain
It's in there but there are no interior images posted except this one and it is small and blurry
fubar57
General
Any dates for the photo Mike?
I don't think the intereior was different from the standard one used for all vehicles. Of course there might be a couple of details attached later during its usage. But any major ones I would say. The camo seems to be a "prototype" but was never used for production vehicles.
mikewint
Captain
Sorry poor choice of phrasing on my part, by INTERIOR I meant "inside of the Nuts and Bolts Vol 26 book itself". Since the Odd Cammo Grille appeared on the cover I was hoping that inside the book there would be more details about it, such as pictures/drawings/etc. of the Odd Cammo Grille in the photo Jan posted. The one page from the N & B Vol 26 book that I did find online that showed the Odd Cammo Grille was small and even when enlarged the caption could not be read. Each of the Nuts and Bolts books are +$50 USD so unless someone happens to have Vol 26....
Secondly I had hoped that Chris' grasp of German might yield more from the partially legible German on the picture itself
None that I could find. I can't speak to Jan's source but I found the picture online and as I posted in #9 The picture is from a posting on Flickr by Panzer DB and he has posted 45 pictures of the little Grille and all appear to be German WWII.
The other posted pics are obviously WWII era so I would assume the Odd Cammo Grille is as well
Greg Boeser
2nd Lieutenant
Looks like a play on 2./400JG's slogan: "Like a flea but oho!" due to the small size of the Me 163 and it's amazing capabilities.
The Grille likewise was small but carried a wallop.
