PISTON ENGINE AIRCRAFT JET KILLS
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Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
Here is a record of all aerial kills made by Tempests against jets.
13 Oct Me262 1 3 P/O R.W. Cole (JN868) Grave UFFZ Edmund Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51
3 Nov Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Venraj-Geldern OBFW Willi Banzhaff, 3/Kdo Nowotny
19 Nov Me262
1/2 486 P/O O.D. Eagleson
1/2 F/L Taylor-Cannon (JN858)
(EJ828) Rheine Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51
3 Dec Me262 1 80 F/O J.W. Garland (EJ722) 4 m S Rheine 9K+BH of I/KG(J) 51,
Oblt Joachim Valet
17 Dec Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Near Wesel 9K+BP of II/KG(J) 51,
Lt Wolfgang L�bke
25 Dec Me262
1/2 486 F/O J.H. Stafford
P/O R.D. Bremner (EJ625)
SA-D (JN803) Aachen area FW Wilhelm Wilkenloh, 1/JG7
23 Jan Me262 1/2
1/2 56 F/L F.L. MacLeod
F/O R.V. Dennis US-S (EJ663)
US-M (EJ778) Paderborn area OBLT Hans Holzwarth, 12/KG51
11 Feb Ar234B 1 274 S/L D.C. Fairbanks (NV645) Rheine airfield 1(F)/123, Hpt Hans Felden
2 Mar Ar234 1 222 F/L G.W. Varley ZD-E (EJ882) 5 m E Lingen FI + QT of 9/KG(J),
Lt Eberhard R�gele
14 Mar Ar234 1/2
1/2 222 F/L L. McAuliffe airfield
F/O D.G.C. McCleland (NV774)
ZD-X (NV670) N Quakenbr�ck
15 April Ar234 1/2
1/2 56 F/L N.D. Cox
F/L J.A. McCairns US-G (NV968)
US-E (NV786) Kaltenkirchen airfield
19 April He162 1 222 F/O G. Walkington (SN185) Husum I/JG 1
25 April Me262 1 486 F/O K.A. Smith SA-Q (EJ711) L�beck
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13 Oct Me262 1 3 P/O R.W. Cole (JN868) Grave UFFZ Edmund Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51
3 Nov Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Venraj-Geldern OBFW Willi Banzhaff, 3/Kdo Nowotny
19 Nov Me262
1/2 486 P/O O.D. Eagleson
1/2 F/L Taylor-Cannon (JN858)
(EJ828) Rheine Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51
3 Dec Me262 1 80 F/O J.W. Garland (EJ722) 4 m S Rheine 9K+BH of I/KG(J) 51,
Oblt Joachim Valet
17 Dec Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Near Wesel 9K+BP of II/KG(J) 51,
Lt Wolfgang L�bke
25 Dec Me262
1/2 486 F/O J.H. Stafford
P/O R.D. Bremner (EJ625)
SA-D (JN803) Aachen area FW Wilhelm Wilkenloh, 1/JG7
23 Jan Me262 1/2
1/2 56 F/L F.L. MacLeod
F/O R.V. Dennis US-S (EJ663)
US-M (EJ778) Paderborn area OBLT Hans Holzwarth, 12/KG51
11 Feb Ar234B 1 274 S/L D.C. Fairbanks (NV645) Rheine airfield 1(F)/123, Hpt Hans Felden
2 Mar Ar234 1 222 F/L G.W. Varley ZD-E (EJ882) 5 m E Lingen FI + QT of 9/KG(J),
Lt Eberhard R�gele
14 Mar Ar234 1/2
1/2 222 F/L L. McAuliffe airfield
F/O D.G.C. McCleland (NV774)
ZD-X (NV670) N Quakenbr�ck
15 April Ar234 1/2
1/2 56 F/L N.D. Cox
F/L J.A. McCairns US-G (NV968)
US-E (NV786) Kaltenkirchen airfield
19 April He162 1 222 F/O G. Walkington (SN185) Husum I/JG 1
25 April Me262 1 486 F/O K.A. Smith SA-Q (EJ711) L�beck
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Erich
the old Sage
gents my mtneering trip wnet sour in a big way, but I will not get into that. I am not at home just yet, in fact out of state for antoher three days and borrowing a pc.
KG 51 also had 109's at their disposal and the jet stafflen first performed fighter bomber missions before becoming ..... as an example II.KG(J.)51 a bomber/fighter interceptor unit. The gruppe and the I. gruppe also performed bomber missions till wars end. Bomber pilots with insufficient fighter combat experience were shot down in droves in 1945. More on this thread when I return.
Ich steige aus !
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KG 51 also had 109's at their disposal and the jet stafflen first performed fighter bomber missions before becoming ..... as an example II.KG(J.)51 a bomber/fighter interceptor unit. The gruppe and the I. gruppe also performed bomber missions till wars end. Bomber pilots with insufficient fighter combat experience were shot down in droves in 1945. More on this thread when I return.
Ich steige aus !
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evangilder
"Shooter"
SOunds like you had something bad happen on your trip. I hope you are okay.
Yeah hope everything is okay Erich. Keep us posted.
Erich
the old Sage
still here at my dads for one more day enjoying 100F plus degree weather............Puke ! 
just touching up all my mosquito bites of which I am slightly allergic too. Oh whoopie. ready to head back to Oregon on the morrow and home sweet home and my babe'
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just touching up all my mosquito bites of which I am slightly allergic too. Oh whoopie. ready to head back to Oregon on the morrow and home sweet home and my babe'E
Medvedya
Master Sergeant
Nonskimmer said:
And with a hint of some tongue too if you please!
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
Oh god here we go again.
Nonskimmer
Captain
I'm staying out of it this time. :-"
Yeah same here.
Erich
the old Sage
dang this thread is going way OOT. where were we anyway ? Janaury of 45 or something like that ?
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
thank god you're here to stop this!
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Erich said:
Thanks Erich, yes, Jan 45. Jabberwocky gave us some Tempest kills.
jrk
Airman 1st Class
before anyone jumps on me i know this isnt a confirmed jet kill to a piston engined pilot.
however it is a jet pilots observation comment to a piston engined aircraft
"The Messerschmitt Me 262's most dangerous opponent was the British Hawker Tempest - extremely fast at low altitudes, highly-manoeuvrable and heavily-armed."
(Hubert Lange, Me262 pilot)
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however it is a jet pilots observation comment to a piston engined aircraft
"The Messerschmitt Me 262's most dangerous opponent was the British Hawker Tempest - extremely fast at low altitudes, highly-manoeuvrable and heavily-armed."
(Hubert Lange, Me262 pilot)
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the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
i'd say that's about right..........
I can agree with it especially since the 262 was so vunerable on the ground.
jrk
Airman 1st Class
i think the comment is made in the context of if the tempest was below 20000 ft and caught the me 262 the jet would be more sluggish at such an altitude that the tempest pilot had a good opportunity to get a long and accurate burst in to do enough damage to bring the jet down.height would be the advantage held to the me 262 over the tempest.
