PISTON ENGINE AIRCRAFT JET KILLS

• Jul 26, 2005

• #201

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• Jul 26, 2005

• #202

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Here is a record of all aerial kills made by Tempests against jets.


13 Oct Me262 1 3 P/O R.W. Cole (JN868) Grave UFFZ Edmund Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51

3 Nov Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Venraj-Geldern OBFW Willi Banzhaff, 3/Kdo Nowotny

19 Nov Me262
1/2 486 P/O O.D. Eagleson
1/2 F/L Taylor-Cannon (JN858)
(EJ828) Rheine Delatowski, 9K+ FL of 3/KG51

3 Dec Me262 1 80 F/O J.W. Garland (EJ722) 4 m S Rheine 9K+BH of I/KG(J) 51,
Oblt Joachim Valet

17 Dec Me262 1 122W W/C J.B. Wray JBW (EJ750) Near Wesel 9K+BP of II/KG(J) 51,
Lt Wolfgang L�bke

25 Dec Me262
1/2 486 F/O J.H. Stafford
P/O R.D. Bremner (EJ625)
SA-D (JN803) Aachen area FW Wilhelm Wilkenloh, 1/JG7

23 Jan Me262 1/2
1/2 56 F/L F.L. MacLeod
F/O R.V. Dennis US-S (EJ663)
US-M (EJ778) Paderborn area OBLT Hans Holzwarth, 12/KG51

11 Feb Ar234B 1 274 S/L D.C. Fairbanks (NV645) Rheine airfield 1(F)/123, Hpt Hans Felden

2 Mar Ar234 1 222 F/L G.W. Varley ZD-E (EJ882) 5 m E Lingen FI + QT of 9/KG(J),
Lt Eberhard R�gele

14 Mar Ar234 1/2
1/2 222 F/L L. McAuliffe airfield
F/O D.G.C. McCleland (NV774)
ZD-X (NV670) N Quakenbr�ck

15 April Ar234 1/2
1/2 56 F/L N.D. Cox
F/L J.A. McCairns US-G (NV968)
US-E (NV786) Kaltenkirchen airfield

19 April He162 1 222 F/O G. Walkington (SN185) Husum I/JG 1

25 April Me262 1 486 F/O K.A. Smith SA-Q (EJ711) L�beck

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• Jul 26, 2005

• #203

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• Jul 26, 2005

• #204

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*ahem* (excuse me)


Um, didn't KG51 get reformed into one of the fighter groups like JG7 when their pilots were pulled out of bombers and put in Me262's?

 

• Jul 27, 2005

• #205

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gents my mtneering trip wnet sour in a big way, but I will not get into that. I am not at home just yet, in fact out of state for antoher three days and borrowing a pc.

KG 51 also had 109's at their disposal and the jet stafflen first performed fighter bomber missions before becoming ..... as an example II.KG(J.)51 a bomber/fighter interceptor unit. The gruppe and the I. gruppe also performed bomber missions till wars end. Bomber pilots with insufficient fighter combat experience were shot down in droves in 1945. More on this thread when I return.

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• Jul 27, 2005

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SOunds like you had something bad happen on your trip. I hope you are okay.

 

• Jul 28, 2005

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Yeah hope everything is okay Erich. Keep us posted.

 

• Jul 28, 2005

• #208

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• Jul 30, 2005

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Vanir and PD, I want you guys to kiss and make up now. Go on - kiss!

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And with a hint of some tongue too if you please!

 

• Jul 31, 2005

• #210

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• Jul 31, 2005

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Oh god here we go again.

 

• Jul 31, 2005

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I'm staying out of it this time. :-"

 

• Jul 31, 2005

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Yeah same here.

 

• Jul 31, 2005

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dang this thread is going way OOT. where were we anyway ? Janaury of 45 or something like that ?

 

• Aug 1, 2005

• #215

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thank god you're here to stop this!

 

• Aug 1, 2005

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Erich said:

dang this thread is going way OOT. where were we anyway ? Janaury of 45 or something like that ?

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Thanks Erich, yes, Jan 45. Jabberwocky gave us some Tempest kills.

 

• Aug 3, 2005

• #217

jrk

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before anyone jumps on me i know this isnt a confirmed jet kill to a piston engined pilot.

however it is a jet pilots observation comment to a piston engined aircraft

"The Messerschmitt Me 262's most dangerous opponent was the British Hawker Tempest - extremely fast at low altitudes, highly-manoeuvrable and heavily-armed."
(Hubert Lange, Me262 pilot)





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• Aug 3, 2005

• #218

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i'd say that's about right..........

 

• Aug 3, 2005

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I can agree with it especially since the 262 was so vunerable on the ground.

 

• Aug 6, 2005

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i think the comment is made in the context of if the tempest was below 20000 ft and caught the me 262 the jet would be more sluggish at such an altitude that the tempest pilot had a good opportunity to get a long and accurate burst in to do enough damage to bring the jet down.height would be the advantage held to the me 262 over the tempest.