Erich
the old Sage
it will surprise you Les, good deal for the monies and I am NO proponent for Osprey in the slightest regard, in fact most of their WW 2 aviation titles I would pass on.
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PISTON ENGINE AIRCRAFT JET KILLS
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I am of the same mindset Erich, Ive found so many innacuracies in the Osprey collection that I dont bother with them except for pictures, and a good portion of those are incorrectly notated....
That being said, I'll take ur word on this one....
That being said, I'll take ur word on this one....
TheMustangRider
Senior Airman
from the American Warbirds both the P-51 Mustang and The P-47 Thunderbolt got Me 262 Kills.
Erich
the old Sage
it is rather obvious by my postings the Stangs and Jugs shot down 262's ...... suggest you go through the other 34 pages
drgondog
Major
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TheMustangRider
Senior Airman
I'm new in this forum Erich, I'll check out all the pages. thanks
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Thanks for the info on that book, Erich. Since joining here I've stayed away from Osprey but if this book is as you say, I know what to do with my Xmas money! Some of those other books are alittle hefty $$$ - need something to whet my appettite while I save the ducats for those books.
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Just ordered this book along with Forsyth's "JV 44" and "To Win The Winter Sky". Thanks Erich!
Erich
the old Sage
Njaco why did you pick up the last title ? It is a compilation of several titles including W. Girbigs 6 mnths to Oblivion which is full of errors
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
The one by Danny Parker? I read acouple bits online and it seemed pretty concise.
I get the feeling I just did a boo-boo.
I get the feeling I just did a boo-boo.
Erich
the old Sage
well to be truthful it is the only book out there so you will get a good read
Ive yet to really pic up a good book covering equally both sides in the winter 44-45 air war in any depth.
Ive yet to really pic up a good book covering equally both sides in the winter 44-45 air war in any depth.
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Amazon.com is amazing! I only ordered these on Sun and bright this morning they were on my step. Erich thanks for the heads up on Forsyth's books. Just completed reading the JG 7 and now devouring the others. The Parker book was interesting what I read online and didn't appear to be filled with alot of junk. I quickly read the intro, Prologue and first chapter and it doesn't seem bad. But it will be with a jaundiced eye as I go through it.
The other two are great especially the pics!
The other two are great especially the pics!
bobbysocks
Chief Master Sergeant
my father's 5th victory was a 262 over Munich. he was witht he 357th FG 364th SQ. it was a combination of the german pilot thinking he was in the clear and my dad making a great/lucky shot. here's info on the 357th and jets.
theyoxfordboysandtheme262
my apologies if this is redunant...i have tried to read through the thread but it keeps giving me a server busy message.
this is a picture my sister painted of the kill.
theyoxfordboysandtheme262
my apologies if this is redunant...i have tried to read through the thread but it keeps giving me a server busy message.
this is a picture my sister painted of the kill.
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FLYBOYJ
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Very Cool!
Erich
the old Sage
very sad your Father is no longer with us, he is one I wanted to specifically interview about this very mission Bobby.
thanks for the brief sharing, hopeful you will be able to read more of the many postings on this thread there is much here from a personal note from several I have had fortune to interview.
of special note the 357th fg of the 8th AF was the most noted Me 262 killer group in the US fighter arsenal.
dang wish time would permit I need to update and get busy again with where I left off........... apoligies all, in good time
thanks for the brief sharing, hopeful you will be able to read more of the many postings on this thread there is much here from a personal note from several I have had fortune to interview.
of special note the 357th fg of the 8th AF was the most noted Me 262 killer group in the US fighter arsenal.
dang wish time would permit I need to update and get busy again with where I left off........... apoligies all, in good time
bobbysocks
Chief Master Sergeant
Erich...thats my dad, Dale E karger! and that is funny cos i remember him telling this story as well. when flying in formation you mainly watch the plane you are taking your queue from . my dad was flying someone's wing that day and just happened to glance to his right...saw a plane and looked back. then it hit him...this 262 is flying formation WITH them! he was so befuddled all he could do was yell, "you have a jet job on your ass!! ..haha he didnt say who so i am sure everyone practacally broke their necks looking back. when the 262 pilot saw my dad look at him he pulled up and kicked it in the ass. my dad broke off after him and hit the trigger....NOTHING.he hit it again...nothing. he finally remembered he did not turn on his gun heaters ( which was normal practice in formation as to not accidently shoot one of your own by accicent). by that time the 262 was out of range. my dad tried to get back with the group but ended up hedge hopping it back home. i did not know there was an actual record of this incident...i would love to know your source as i am compiling info and stories of my father.
mikewint
Captain
I seem to recall that two MIGs were shot down in VN by Douglas Skyraiders
R Leonard
Staff Sergeant
Spads vs Migs - - - see post #18
mikewint
Captain
thanks, leonard, i tried to read all of the posts but missed that one. i absolutely loved those skyraiders along with the hueys and once or twice good old spookey. saved our collective butts more than once. of course f-4s coming in about 20ft off the deck were beyond impressive.
icepac
Airman
I spy a mig silhouette on a skyraider.
The long loiter time of the skyraider explained.
577 was also on the toilet mission and took gun camera film of the drop which consisted of a dot leaving 572 which quickly grew in size on a collision course with 577 and then sky.
Someone still has that film but not sure if it is viewable or restorable.
The long loiter time of the skyraider explained.
577 was also on the toilet mission and took gun camera film of the drop which consisted of a dot leaving 572 which quickly grew in size on a collision course with 577 and then sky.
Someone still has that film but not sure if it is viewable or restorable.
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