Planes over el alamein

pops-paolo · Jun 16, 2021

I know the basic fighters like the BF109, Macchi, P-40, Hurricane, and Spitfire but which specific types were there? For example where any G-2 Trops there or was it just F-4's
If anyone has info that would be cool cause Wikipedia doesn't say anything about the production of the G-2 tropical or its first operational use.

space dodo · Jun 17, 2021

my great grandfather was a sapper at el alamein and tobruk. as far as i know our airforce also operated some gladiators up there but not sure on the specifics

pops-paolo · Jun 17, 2021

space dodo said:
my great grandfather was a sapper at el alamein and tobruk. as far as i know our airforce also operated some gladiators up there but not sure on the specifics

yeah they also use spitfires Vc's like i guess that helps but i need bf 109s

Simon Thomas · Jun 17, 2021

My grandfather was at El Alamein and Tobruk (9th Division), he took a photo of a Wellington with the mine detonating ring. I'll hunt around to see if I can find it - it isn't very clear.

space dodo · Jun 17, 2021

Simon Thomas said:
My grandfather was at El Alamein and Tobruk (9th Division), he took a photo of a Wellington with the mine detonating ring. I'll hunt around to see if I can find it - it isn't very clear.

did you know most of the sappers didnt have metal detectors and had to probe the dirt with their bayonets to get the mines

Wurger · Jun 17, 2021

pops-paolo said:
yeah they also use spitfires Vc's like i guess that helps but i need bf 109s

the source: Kagero site ...

pbehn · Jun 17, 2021

space dodo said:
did you know most of the sappers didnt have metal detectors and had to probe the dirt with their bayonets to get the mines

Not all mines were magnetic and you are a much better target for a sniper if you stand up with detecting equipment, the mines the Wellington triggered were at sea.

pops-paolo · Jun 17, 2021

Wurger said:
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the source: Kagero site ...

danke but in polish to you

space dodo · Jun 17, 2021

pbehn said:
Not all mines were magnetic and you are a much better target for a sniper if you stand up with detecting equipment, the mines the Wellington triggered were at sea.

realized my mistake now

Thumpalumpacus · Jun 17, 2021

space dodo said:
did you know most of the sappers didnt have metal detectors and had to probe the dirt with their bayonets to get the mines

The Wellington minesweepers were used to detonate magnetic sea-mines, not pressure mines on land.

GrauGeist · Jun 18, 2021

Simon Thomas said:
My grandfather was at El Alamein and Tobruk (9th Division), he took a photo of a Wellington with the mine detonating ring. I'll hunt around to see if I can find it - it isn't very clear.

Include "degaussing" as a keyword when searching for an aircraft type that was used for mine-sweeping.

Just Schmidt · Jun 18, 2021

Wurger said:
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the source: Kagero site ...

That looks like an Emil without tail struts. In risk of asking a stupid question: is that even possible?

tyrodtom · Jun 18, 2021

In 628843 that's a Bf109F, notice the retractable tail wheel and different air scoop, as well as no horizontal stabilizer struts.

Wurger · Jun 18, 2021

And the question has been answered.

Just Schmidt · Jun 18, 2021

tyrodtom said:
In 628843 that's a Bf109F, notice the retractable tail wheel and different air scoop, as well as no horizontal stabilizer struts.

Thank you, good to know I'm only going blind...

SaparotRob · Jun 18, 2021

I stopped when I needed glasses.

Milosh · Jun 18, 2021

Any Ju52 mine sweeping a/c in the Med?

https://www.italeri.com/uploads/products/0126_illustrazione_LR.jpg

GrauGeist · Jun 18, 2021

Milosh said:
Any Ju52 mine sweeping a/c in the Med?

https://www.italeri.com/uploads/products/0126_illustrazione_LR.jpg

I recall reading that there were a few in the Med at one point, but it seems that the Minesweeping in the channel and Baltic was a higher priority, plus the Kreigsmarine didn't have a large enough presence in the Mediterranean to warrant a large minesweeping effort.

Years ago, I did a thread on degaussing aircraft, so there are good details on the aircraft used, including the Wellington:
Minesweeping Aircraft

Andrew Arthy · Jun 23, 2021

Milosh said:
Any Ju52 mine sweeping a/c in the Med?

https://www.italeri.com/uploads/products/0126_illustrazione_LR.jpg

Hi Milos,

Yes, there were Ju 52 mine-sweeping aircraft operating from various locations in the Mediterranean in 1942 and 1943. In early February 1943 there were seven under Luftflotte 3 (France), ten under Lw.Befh.Mitte (Jever, Danzig and Kopenhagen), eight in the Mediterranean, and two under Luftflotte 4 (Black Sea). Adam Thompson and I have done a fair bit of research on the Ju 52 Mausi units, and hope to some day (probably many years away) produce a book or article on the subject.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
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