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Ya' know, this might be closer to the truth than we think.
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special ed
1st Sergeant
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special ed
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- May 13, 2018
michaelmaltby
Colonel
Shouldn't this be in the Covid thread?
I thought about it…lol
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
"Is it a right to remain ignorant?" Apparently in Oregon it is.
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at6
1st Sergeant
I heard about that. That means that schools are staffed by over paid baby sitters. Next it will be California. Hell, the kids here are already dumb enough.
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buffnut453
Captain
I'm struggling to understand why removing the maths requirement makes things "more equitable". Seems to me that it simply perpetuates the under-representation of some ethnic groups in engineering and the sciences. Given the prevalence of software development and technology jobs in today's marketplace, surely increasing maths skills is more relevant to the workforce...or am I missing something?
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Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
The goal is to make everybody equally stupid
at6
1st Sergeant
Stupid are as stupid do. all we need are inbred morons becoming doctors. No Gnomey, we weren't referring to you.
You come from a competent generation.
You come from a competent generation.MIflyer
1st Lieutenant
Solzhenitsyn: "Communism is Militant Mediocrity."
michaelmaltby
Colonel
"... Shouldn't this be in the Covid thread?"
No .. that would be Politicxl
No .. that would be Politicxl
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
re education and "Is it a right to remain ignorant?"
Yes
. . . according to past and present US law, and past and present US education traditions (public and private) . . . and it is evident in the US historical record. All you have to do is look at the ignorance displayed by people, more obvious at some times in US history than at others.
Whether it should be a right has been debated repeatedly over the years, including what standards should be met. It has continued to be a de-facto right largely due to the source of the primary education problem, ie the parents. There is no practical way to consistently defeat the ignorance inducing effect of a child's parents - the parent's influence is just too great. In some cases the resulting ignorance is intentional on the part of the parent, but most often is due to the ignorance of the parent. As we have often discussed in this forum, history is a good example of the parent induced ignorance effect.
But part of the stated focus of the US public education system (from its inception in the late-1800s) has always been to prevent marginalization of the less knowledgable - and the intent has never been to prevent a child from being able to get a job, or even making it harder to get a job based on their grades. The exact opposite is the case, ie the intent has been/still is to socially integrate the population - to whatever degree practical - through common experience, understanding (including whatever academic knowledge they are able to impart to the child), and thereby provide opportunity.
Oh, and children were just as stupid in our day as today.![:-\"](/forum/images/smilies/eusa_whistle.gif "Whistle :-\\"")
I remember.
Yes
. . . according to past and present US law, and past and present US education traditions (public and private) . . . and it is evident in the US historical record. All you have to do is look at the ignorance displayed by people, more obvious at some times in US history than at others.Whether it should be a right has been debated repeatedly over the years, including what standards should be met. It has continued to be a de-facto right largely due to the source of the primary education problem, ie the parents. There is no practical way to consistently defeat the ignorance inducing effect of a child's parents - the parent's influence is just too great. In some cases the resulting ignorance is intentional on the part of the parent, but most often is due to the ignorance of the parent. As we have often discussed in this forum, history is a good example of the parent induced ignorance effect.
But part of the stated focus of the US public education system (from its inception in the late-1800s) has always been to prevent marginalization of the less knowledgable - and the intent has never been to prevent a child from being able to get a job, or even making it harder to get a job based on their grades. The exact opposite is the case, ie the intent has been/still is to socially integrate the population - to whatever degree practical - through common experience, understanding (including whatever academic knowledge they are able to impart to the child), and thereby provide opportunity.
Oh, and children were just as stupid in our day as today.
I remember.
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special ed
1st Sergeant
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Ignorance can be cured. Not so much stupid.
Snautzer01
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Wot? He wears a skirt?
