The Best Bf - 109 Variant ?

[cheddar cheese]

Nice pics CB! 8)

 

[cheddar cheese]

geez guys take the Fw 190 and start another thread......

Sure thing Erich...

It can be found here http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=54461#54461...

 

[CharlesBronson]

British document related to captured Bf-109F-1

A little correction: The Db-601N actually have 1200 hp at take-off

 

[cheddar cheese]

Brilliant find CB! 8)

 

[Nonskimmer]

Interesting!

 

[KraziKanuK]

http://www.beim-zeugmeister.de/zeugmeister/index.php?id=21&L=1

Worth the read for comparison to the Brit tests > 109F performance.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The F was probably the best 109 varient built. It was the last one built before it started to decay the maneuaverability.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yeah that ill agree with. OR should we say the the F was the last 109 with accessible performance? As experienced pilots could extract great things from the G...

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The problem with the F was the armament, even though many pilots believed the arrangment on the F to allow them to better place there shots. But from performance wise the F put the Luftwaffe ahead of the allies until the Spitfire MK. 5
The G models and above were great aircraft when it comes to performance but at high speeds and dives the controls would tighten up. An experienced pilot could do wonders with a G or K.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yep, although I think the K's engine really was too powerful for the airframe....

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

but the same could be said for the G............

 

[cheddar cheese]

Not really...the G was nowhere near as fast as the K and was still more manageable.

 

[Erich]

that is incorrect. the G-10 was as fast as the K, maybe even faster.......

Several German manuals attest to this.

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[cheddar cheese]

Sure? Ive read 410mph for the G-10, and 452mph for the K-4...

 

[CharlesBronson]

According to my sources Erich is rigth.

One of the most equilibrated variant was the version G-2 and his field conversion G-2/ R-6 non-pressurized figther. Equipped with 1475 hp DB-605A and no much more heavy than F versions. Is the most streamlined of all G series.

It don´t have the bulges in wing for large wheels introduced in the G-4.

Look at this "Spotted Eagle" a G-2/R-6 from JG-5 that belong to Hans Döbrich.

The cowling clean lines dont carry the very ugly "tumors" of the Mg-131 fairings, tipical of G-5, G-6, G-14 etc.

Another shot of the same Gustav showing the camo pattern:

 

[Nonskimmer]

Interesting paint scheme. 8)

 

[Udet]

Charles:

Fabulous photos!

Personally, I do not consider the bulges on the cowling, say, of the G-6 ugly at all.

Ilmari Juutilainen, the top finnish ace with 94 confirmed kills, chalked up his personal score during the summer of 1944, flying precisely a Bf109 G-2 against the soviet fighters.

 

[CharlesBronson]

Fabuluos is my surname.

Came on Udet... the bulges are horrendous, not to mention the aditional drag that it created.

 

[evangilder]

Nice shots, CB!

 

[cheddar cheese]

Yeah great photos! 8) To be honest I never really notice the bulges...