The Best Fw-190 Variant...?

[CharlesBronson]

Very interesting pics of Fw-190 testing ejector seat.

 

[Gnomey]

Interesting pics CB.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Good finds! 8)

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Good pics I dont think I have seen those before.

 

[KraziKanuK]

Good pics I dont think I have seen those before.

They have been published in some 190 books of many years ago with photos of the Draeger seats. Nowarra's book of 1965 is one.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Cool thanks.

 

[carpenoctem1689]

Does anyone know if the Fw-190 ever went operational in the interceptor role with a six 20mm cannon layout? I saw one in a book that had two pod mounted Mg151/20 on each wing, and a 20mm in each wingroot, designed to bring down B-17's, but i dont know if it was an experimental or saw action, does anyone out there know anything more?

 

[lesofprimus]

It was called the Fw-190A-8/R1, and it carried 2 underwing WB 151 containers with 4X MG 151 20mm cannon, on top of the 2X wingroot 20mm....

 

[Erich]

sorry to have to correct you Les but the only six 2cm packed to kill bomber destroyer was the Fw 190A-5/U12 used by JG 1 and I./JG 11. Staffelkapitän Oberleutnant Hans Pancitius of 3./JG 11 flew one and was lost over the north seas chasing returning B-17's. He was a friend of the familie. I./JG 11 used them to quite a success but during the summer of 43 and into the fall it was outclassed by the A-6 and the heavier A-5/U12 was Thunderbolt point 50 fodder. the sucka was just too unwielding in flight and too slow in a fighter vs fighter combat.

there was never an A-8/R1 except in a mock-up

now you know the story behind that heavy mama

 

[lesofprimus]

U are right about the A-8/R1....
I forgot that the Fw 190A-8, like previous models, could be equipped with different Rustsatz kits: R1, R2, R3, R4, R6, R7, R8, R11, R12; but R1, R3 and R4 were abandoned shortly thereafter and generally R2, R6, R7 and R8 kits were used....

Fw 190A-5/U12 - proposal for heavier armament consisting of six MG 151/20 E cannons. They were mounted under the wing in two additional WB 151/20 pods with two cannons in each pod; complete armament could be 2x1 MG 17, 2x1 MG 151/20 E and 2x2 MG 151/20 E. It was also a model for Rustsatz 1 (R1) kit for Fw 190A; two planes (BH+CC, W.Nr. 150813 and BH+CD, W.Nr. 150814) with such armament were completed.

Fw 190A-6/R1 - attack fighter with armament increased to six cannons and two machine guns (2x1 MG 17, 2x1 MG 151/20 E and 2x2 MG 151/20 E), by mounting of the WB 151/20 underwing pylons with cannons. This modification was based on the A-5/U12 version. In spite of previous plans, only a few planes with this armament were in Luftwaffe service units (e.g. in JG 11).

 

[Erich]

Les there were no A-6/R1's they were all A-5/U12's primarily in 2nd and 3rd staffels of JG 11 of at least 35 a/c made if not more not just two prototypes you mentioned......the production or I should say the service of these units was in early summer of 43 till fall of 43 when they were phased or destroyed within the gruppen. the next heavy prduction unit as a bomber killer was the A-7/MK with outboard 3cm's the grandfather of the A-8/R2 and R-8. the A-7/MK was in JG 1 and in I./JG 11, primarily 2nd staffel and the bomber killer was quite lethal

 

[CharlesBronson]

Fw-190 in pursuit, the B-17 is already in flames.

Fw 190A-5/U12 - proposal for heavier armament consisting of six MG 151/20 E cannons. They were mounted under the wing in two additional WB 151/20 pods with two cannons in each pod; complete armament could be 2x1 MG 17, 2x1 MG 151/20 E and 2x2 MG 151/20 E. It was also a model for Rustsatz 1 (R1) kit for Fw 190A; two planes (BH+CC, W.Nr. 150813 and BH+CD, W.Nr. 150814) with such armament were completed

There is a profile of A-5-U/12 in here

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1998/12/stuff_eng_profile_fw190.htm

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5/U-12
2. Staffel, I. Gruppe, Jagdgeschwader 11
Husum, Schleswig-Holstein
Early 1944

 

[Erich]

one of ace Erich Hondt's mounts although the profile is not quite correct. Again I point out the JG 11 I. gruppe had quite the notable success in flying this bird

 

[CharlesBronson]

Nice pic of a restored FW-190S: 8)

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

very interesting, not often you see them!

 

[Gnomey]

very interesting, not often you see them!

That is true, looks like a 2 seater as well. Nice pic CB!

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

very interesting, not often you see them!

That is true, looks like a 2 seater as well. Nice pic CB!

The Fw-190S was the 2 seat trainer version of the Fw-190. I believe they built FW-190S-5 and an Fw-190S-8. I believe the first purpse built Fw-190 trainer was the E-1 commonly mistaken as a S-1.

 

[CharlesBronson]

In this page there is plenty of nice Fw-190 pictures, including the prototipes and the late variants.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/w...review/winter_2001_2002/web_gallery/index.htm


Fw-190V1-V3 ??

FW-190G-2.

JG-1.

 

[Nonskimmer]

Great pics, including the Fw-190S.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Nice pics, I like the one of the cowling. Shows the different German paint jobs that were around.