The Guns We Own

[RabidAlien]

Siggy line in an email I just got:

"Shot my first turkey yesterday - scared everyone in the frozen food section. It was awesome! Gettin' old is so much fun..."

Why do I get this mental image of CCheese standing in the supermarket with a double-barrel, grinning from ear to ear?

 

[bobbysocks]

that's funny! probably not too far from the truth... but still funny...

 

[Bucksnort101]

Siggy line in an email I just got:

"Shot my first turkey yesterday - scared everyone in the frozen food section. It was awesome! Gettin' old is so much fun..."

I hope he had gotten permission to hunt there. Up here in Minnesota if you get caught hunting turkeys without permission they take your, gun, truck, turkey, gravy, stuffing, mashed potatos, etc... away from you as punishment!!!

 

[GrauGeist]

I agree with you, Matt...

I'm a native born (Southern) Californian and have watched my state slip from the world's 6th economic power to the equivellant of a third world nation complete with urban decay, corrupt politicians and confusing/nonsense laws...

One of the idiotic laws we have to deal with, is the infamous "drop test" law which is based around a pistol (auto, revolver, etc) having a round in the chamber and being "accidently" dropped from a certain height onto it's uncocked hammer. If the weapon is capable of transmitting the force from the impact to the firing pin causing the round to discharge, then it fails said "drop test"...

I can't think of a time that I dropped my weapon, accidently or otherwise regardless of whether or not there was a round chambered. I have alot of thoughts on this particular law, but the one sure-fire cure for this would be for a person to know proper weapon handling, including keeping the chamber clear until it's time to fire it. The other point that would make it easier on all citizens, is to accept responsability for one's own actions, including accidently shooting themselves when they drop thier own loaded weapon.

People in general really irritate me (present company excluded)

 

[mikewint]

Grau, right on the nailhead. Having spent a lot of time in schools I have seen this attitude grow and grow. They are taught from the begining that they are responsible for nothing. If they fail it is not THEIR fault for not studying or doing homework, it is the teacher's fault for not teaching them correctly and they (students) can even personally sue that teacher. Our whole welfare system is "poor helpless pawn" based.
One of my favorite song lines comes from Willie: "Grandpappy told my Pappy: "Back in my day son, a man had to answer for the wicked he done.""
sorry Mods, off topic and I rant

 

[Matt308]

The drop test in Kalifirnai is nothing but the anti-gun crowd coming up with legistlation that doesn't outright ban guns, but allows for their "disqualification". This is no different than clips limited to 10rds, or carry laws limited to those that "qualify" or lead ammunition being banned due to environmental reasons. It's not about the environment people.

As everone knows, we just had a Mt. Rainier ranger shot to death by a gunman. Immediately there were calls for the banning of guns on federal forest land.

As if the gunman would have read a sign saying guns are not allowed and immediately turned around.

I'm sure I mentioned it before, but I won a lotto for a Department of Civilian Marksmanship Program (DCMP) and picked up an M1D Garand pristine with bonafides. Included rifle with match parts, original stock kit, Mk84 Lyman 4x scope with canvas bag, 4-prong flash hider, cleaning kit and original leather cheek mount. I was one lucky SOB.

M1D is on the bottom.

 

[javlin]

Those M1D's Matt are nice rigs The shop a couple of towns over Ralph has one maybe two in his inventory and it seems $2500 starting ??been awhile since I have looked at them.

 

[GrauGeist]

Dang, Matt...that is one sweet score...congrats!!

 

[vikingBerserker]

I agree!

 

[RabidAlien]

Matt, you suck. Now I've got to drain the drool out of my keyboard. Dangit!

(where does one sign up for a CMP drawing? Does one have to be a member?)

And Mike...you nailed that one. Its the "Me" generation growing up and passing on the self-centered-ness to the next generations.

 

[Torch]

Very nice Matt.........

 

[mikewint]

Very very nice Matt. I've seen one or two at gun shows but the price has always kept me away. Congrats at your very lucky winnings

 

[ToughOmbre]

Beautiful, and you won it to boot!

There's nothing like a Garand!

TO

 

[Bucksnort101]

Nice Matt. Correct me if I am wrong. I always thought the CMP Lotteries are to winthe opportunity to purchase one of the rare rifles, such as the M1C or M1D. You still have to pay for said rifle is what I always thought. If I'm wrong, or if they have changed things I better get my name in the lottery!

 

[Rocketeer]

Just pray you don't get like the UK!! Our gun laws are so strict and made by knee jerk politicians. I bought a lovely Thompson 1928 and had the gangster mods....only allowed it if it is deactivated....i got to shoot a fully functioning one in Florida which was fun!

 

[RabidAlien]

Hey, quick question for all you violent gun-owning reprobates out there (yeah, and you too, Mike): the wife and I were at Academy Sports earlier this afternoon, taking a gander at their hunting section, and happened to get our fluffy mitts on a couple of 1911's (to hold and drool over, couldn't afford them at this time). They're Citadel 1911's, priced around $500, but I'd never heard of Citadel before. The guy at the counter said they were made in the Philippines, which doesn't mean much to me regarding quality. I did a quick Google search, and found various threads on various forums discussing the pros and cons (great guns for the price, factory-included mags are shite, pick up a George Wilson or other single-stack 1911 mag and they run like butter)...my question is, anybody here have any experience with this particular brand? I'd like to get the scoop from someone who owns one or has owned one, and whether it was loved/hated/indifferent. I loved the feel, and the slide spring didn't feel like it required a hydraulic jack (yeah, I'm a wuss) to rack it. The little grip notches on the back side of the slide felt a lot nicer than the ones on the Springfield XD series (don't get me wrong, I enjoy my XD, but sometimes, when your palms are sweaty, the gun is freshly oiled, and Jupiter is in the House of the Rising Sun, its a pain). Anyhoo, just lookin for feedback on one of these bad boys...would LOVE a Colt or Springfield 1911, but they're not in my price range yet.

ETA: we were looking at these as something else to have around "just in case", and potentially as carry-guns. The wife wants a Springfield EMP, which is a very nice, comfortable subcompact, but the $1200 tag is really prohibitive right now.

 

[javlin]

I have not heard of them either it seems RA but as to the XD shot one once I did not care for it that much.It had the 4" barrel grips seemed fat aahhh gave it back could not group well either.The owned of the XD shot my SP WWII army issue copy grouped better with it than he did with his own XD and I p/u the SP for $400 almost new.It does sound like what you handled today was a more traditional setup for a 1911?

 

[RabidAlien]

As far as I could tell, yeah, it was a traditional 1911 setup, beavertail, single-stack mags, etc. I have nothing against the XD, feels good in my hand, but I could always use tighter groups! Always figured that was just because I've never had any formal training. Need to remedy that. But, yeah, even with the trigger lock on the thing, the 1911 felt really good in my hand.

 

[GrauGeist]

Can't give you any help on that, RA...I've owned the Colt 1911A and Norinco 1911A clone :/

 

[javlin]

I had one of my co-workers loan me a bolt HR17 Savage accu-trigger with the keyhole Monte Carlo stock nice little rig.I will get out from the city come Tuesday or Wednesday to try her those little guys they are rated at 2550fps.The keyhole grip really feels nice I never have played with that before since most of my stuff is Military issue.