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The chief test pilot commented that the Me 210 had "all the least desirable attributes an aeroplane could possess."would you kindly have a link, as to where my favorite (optically) 2 engine Luftwaffe aircraft receives such "devastating perceptions"
regards
Jagdflieger
Hello aircraft enthusiasts,
well being new at a forum it might not be advisable to get straight into a controversial thread
However I am a bit surprised to see a Bf 110 ranking as No. 5 since it was more or less outclassed by "puristic" single engine fighters from the very beginning.
As such being relegated to night-fighter tasks were due to a lack of a far more suitable Luftwaffe aircraft it "automatically" performed reasonably well.
The same thoughts would apply towards a Mosquito - a great raider and night-fighter, but fighter aircraft as such?
Well just my thoughts- that all
Regards to all
Jagdflieger
During Battle of France, Bf 110s produced several aces versus the best of the French and RAF Spitfires/Hurricanes. North Africa Jan. '41, Bf.110s 33 versus Warhawks & Hurricanes 23. Without ground control, single engined fighters weren't significantly superior yet. But Bf 110 was losing the development race - which is what Me 210 was supposed to pull back ala Me 109F did versus Spitfire with 100 octane.I don't know that rating twin fighters against concurrent single-engined fighters is the point, but rather, to rate the twin-fighters against each other. Outside of perhaps the P-38 I don't know of any twin produced in numbers that could hold its own against an equally-modern single-engined fighter.
During Battle of France, Bf 110s produced several aces versus the best of the French and RAF Spitfires/Hurricanes. North Africa Jan. '41, Bf.110s 33 versus Warhawks & Hurricanes 23. Without ground control, single engined fighters weren't significantly superior yet. But Bf 110 was losing the development race - which is what Me 210 was supposed to pull back ala Me 109F did versus Spitfire with 100 octane.
Hi Thumpalumpacus,Hiyas and welcome, first.
I don't know that rating twin fighters against concurrent single-engined fighters is the point, but rather, to rate the twin-fighters against each other. Outside of perhaps the P-38 I don't know of any twin produced in numbers that could hold its own against an equally-modern single-engined fighter.
Hi there Graugeist,Yes, the Me210 was really that bad.
It was unstable in level flight and had a tendency to enter unrecoverable stalls if climbing too sharply or banking too hard.
Many attempts were made to correct the problem, including a new tail structure and lengthening the fuselage.
With several modifications, the Me210C was suitable enough and the Hungarian Air Force had good success with it.
The Me410 was a far superior aircraft as a result of all the changes (and time) needed to make the Me210 work well enough for Luftwaffe service.
Would you have a source for that?Luftwaffe pilots
referred to the Bf 110 as the "Gefriertruhe" (refrigerator box) Truhe (box) in regards to it's flight characteristics
Not really to be honest, besides statements from my father and a couple of his WW2 surviving Luftwaffe pilot mates.Would you have a source for that?
yes, you and don4331 are certainly correct. I did overlook that the Do 335 wasn't put into action.
The Bf 110 and e.g. He 219 were termed Jaeger (Hunter) with a crew of 2-3. in their night-role - and their primary mission was to shoot down bombers - not engaging fighters
Right - but I did not design the headline of this "Listing"Right, which means comparing them to S-E fighters is comparing them to planes they shouldn't be fighting.
Right - but I did not design the headline of this "Listing"
The more appropriate wording might be "The best 10 twin engine, Multi-role aircraft" - then bye. bye P-38
Regards
Jagdflieger
Goering?Right - but I did not design the headline of this "Listing"
The more appropriate wording might be "The best 10 twin engine, Multi-role aircraft" - then bye. bye P-38
Otherwise who came up with the idea to place a Ju 88 into that listing?
Regards
Jagdflieger
Oh my God - now I even feel compelled to defend that useless fellowGoering?
I assume its only the Anglo-American literature/language that referred or refers to it as fighter aircraft.
Hm.... or the aircraft that replaced it? my all time favorite jet No. 2 out of 10 British military jet aircraft's, the Meteor F.3s with the Derwent I enginesMosquito would take that prize, no doubt.
Hi Shortround6Well. "Anglo-American literature/language" refers to this as a fighter
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At least they hung a P-70 designation on it
The Anglo-Americans get a little sloppy with language.
They seem to translate this from French to "fighter" in English.
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