United Jet makes blind landing

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  1. Vassili Zaitzev

    Vassili Zaitzev Well-Known Member

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    Aside from the smoke - it seems the EFIS system went out. There are still a few steam gages for basic VFR flying.
     
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    Seems like they over dramatized it . Flying blind ? In broad daylight . Were the ceilings that low ? Was the cockpit that smoked up?

    What are just basic instruments on a aircraft like that ?
     
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    They did - unless their view was obstructed in the cockpit there are dozens of training scenarios pilots have to go through when training in aircraft that have EFIS systems in them and many of those scenerios involve loosing all 4 screens. There's an artifical horizion I know for sure, maybe an airspeed indicator and VSI that are used for backup but I think that's it.
     
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    Kind of figured the media played it up. Oh well, it doesn't change the outcome.
     
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    #6 pbfoot, Apr 5, 2011
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    The pilot probably wamted to lessen his workload , the advantage of a PAR approach is that you can virtually do it without instruments. Airspeed amd turn and bank IMHO being the most essential for the pilot . The PAR controller (going back in time) was often tested in such approaches . Worst being a 104 low fuel no compass
     
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    According to the news here, the tower had to talk him in every inch of the way, kinda like one of those hollywood movies where the pilots are dead and a passenger takes over. Also sounded as if stearing and brakes also failed as he skidded off the runway. There was also cell phone video in the cabin could only see two three rows in the smoke.
     
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    This was from the NTSB report

    "The crew reported that, while climbing through 4,000 feet, they received multiple automated warnings and detected smoke in the cockpit. A loss of primary instrumentation was also reported during the event. The crew indicated that they initiated emergency procedures and turned back to the airport. The crew also described a loss of anti-skid braking and nose-wheel steering upon landing and exited the runway approximately 2000 feet from the departure end of the runway. Additionally, the forward, right-hand slide reportedly failed to inflate during the emergency evacuation."
     
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    FAA will deem it pilot error.
     
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    IT is SOP when doing a PAR that the controller talks him right to the RWY unless the pilot cancels the approach, it is a constant patter with no breaks longer then 10 secs
     
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