VF-8 At Midway: What Happened

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MIflyer

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As everyone knows, at the Battle of Midway the USS Hornet Air Group chose the wrong course to attack the IJN fleet. But the Commander of VT-8, John Waldron, after being unable to convince his superiors to fly a different course, took his men off on what he thought was the correct path about 30 min after launch. While the rest of the Hornet Air Group failed to engage the IJN on the most crucial day of the Battle of Midway, VT-8 hit the enemy fleet dead nuts and went in to attack, alone.

A book I just read, "From the Flight Deck" contains an explanation of what occurred with the ten F4F Wildcat fighters that the Hornet launched that day. The article is written by Bowen P. Weisheit, a WWII navigator on USMC PBJ's and PB4Y's.

VF-8 was flying at 20,000 ft with the Hornet's SBD dive bombers and the Wildcat's leader, Mitchell, had accidentally set his oxygen regulator to 100% at takeoff and then not set it to Normal after they reached altitude, giving them no more than 1.9 hours of oxygen (note: it was standard practice to set the regulator to 100% at night in the USAF). At 1.76 hours into the flight Mitchell realized his mistake and knew he would have to head back to the Hornet and descend to where he could breathe without oxygen.

VF-8 would have to rely on the YE-ZB radio homing system to find the USS Hornet.

The YE-ZB system used a UHF transmitter operating around 240 MHZ that was signal. As described in the article, the antenna on the ship turned and as it went through 12 different sectors, every 30 degrees, and the code transmitted was modulated at around 1000 KHZ and that could be varied a few hundred KHZ to either side. If you knew to tune in the right frequency you would not hear anything but the carrier signal. But if you took the 1000 KHZ signal coming out of a UHF receiver and put it into a receiver tuned to 1000 KHZ you would hear a Morse code letter, which changed for each sector.

So, the F4F pilot had to change the band on his RU-16 receiver from the communications band to the band that matched the modulation of the receiver. Then he had to tune it to the proper modulation frequency to get the signal. And since the control box was just marked 0-100, he would have to look at a chart to see that he had to tune the receiver to say, 50. Then he had to listen to hear what code letter he received. Let's say it was A (dit dah). So he turned toward the carrier based on what another chart told him the signal corresponded to, perhaps it might be for the sector 60 to 90 degrees. As described in the article, he would try to turn slightly left and find the beginning of the next sector, which might be for 90 to 120 degrees, say, with the coded signal H (dit dit dit dit). Then he would turn back to the right until he heard A again. That way he more or less followed a direct line to the carrier, with a slight zig-zag, rather like the AN system used for radio navigation in the US.

Now, the system was simple but it still was easy to screw up. The pilot could fail to turn to the correct band. The pilot could fail to tune in the signal on the control box. He could fail to look at the right chart. Or, of course, they could have failed to tune the UHF receiver to the correct frequency back on the carrier. And while he was doing all that, he could not talk to anyone, since the same RU receiver was used for communications. Normally this was not as big a problem as it sounds, since the USN emphasized radio silence and the use of hand signals by the pilots while in formation.

Mitchell was unable to pick up the YE-ZB signal and turned the lead over to Lt. Ruehlow. Gray was able to pick up the signal and then Ruehlow turned the lead over to him, but Mitchell did not realize it. Then Talbot tuned in the signal and thought he was taking over the lead.

McInerny and Magda got ahead and off to the right of the rest of the squadron and did not see something vital that the other pilots did. The rest of VF-8 flew over the distinctive wide wake of a carrier and sighted the Hornet but concluded that the wake and the ship was the enemy.

All ten airplanes ditched and two of the pilots were lost, Kelly and Hill. Those rescued had been in the water for 5 to 6 days.
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Another good book is
Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway, by Tully.

Other than the heroic flight of Torpedo-8, Hornet's Airgroup played essentially no role in the battle, its one of the disappointments of Midway. CDR Stanhope Ring is usually the fall guy, but even the Magnificent Mitscher's leadership as CO of Hornet is questioned.
 
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I have Shattered Sword, but have not read it yet.

Three other great books are "A Dawn Like Thunder", "The Unknown Battle of Midway" and "No Higher Honor" as well as, of course, "Miracle at Midway."

The Hornet SBD's went back the next day, and found the IJN fleet. Two SBD's were shot down and they failed to do any significant damage to the Japanese.

Since the Enterprise Airgroup followed essentially the same flawed course as Hornet, you can't fault that approach too much. But I find it a bit astonishing that neither had a Plan B ready, such as, "If we do not see the enemy when we fly this course, we can conclude that Lt Cmdr Waldron had a valid point about the enemy fleet not moving so fast under combat conditions, so we should turn North."

The other funny thing was that the USAAF in their B-17's and B-26's never seemed to have any problem finding the enemy. The fact that a heavy four engined bomber could prove to be a much better recon aircraft than could a PBY came as a surprise to the USN and the result was the PB4Y. And a certain USAAF B-17 pilot with a lot of over ocean experience in large aircraft was transferred to the USN; his name was Gene Roddenberry.
 
I have First team and First Team and the Guadalcanal Campaign, but have not read them yet.

Attached is picture of the radio compartment in an F4F.


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I recommend scribd.com which has a lot of books on this period. 5 by Lundstrom including both the above.
also Kaigun, Sunburst, Eagle again the Sun. Many Osprey books. I've been a member for ~10 years. Lots of fiction as well eg Larry Bond
About $100/year
Canread offline, but cannot download as pdfs (which I need for research. )
Search capability is amazingly poor. Any search gives a mishmash. But persistence pays off.

By the way, Scribd has a parallel service of user-contributed pdfs. its confusing
 
Although neither Mitscher or Ring come out smelling like roses, a sympathetic eye must be directed to the relative inexperience of a ship that was so new.
 
True! Yorktown was the most experienced ship there. Based on their Coral Sea experience they put the F4F's down with the TBD's. Enterprise and Hornet put all of them up high with the SBD's and as a result none of their fighters was of any help to the bombers or torpedo bombers.
 
RCAFSon: "Lundstrom's First Team is required reading, IMHO, and it's available as an e-book. His Black Shoe Carrier Admiral (BSA) is another look at Midway."

Amen and a second to both books recommendation.

Milflyer: "Since the Enterprise Airgroup followed essentially the same flawed course as Hornet,..."

AFAIK, from a variety of sources (including Lundstrom, Shattered Sword and Symonds, The Battle of Midway). The Hornet and Enterprise aircraft did not follow the same flawed course. If I recall correctly, the early sightings provided an estimated WSW position and a course (that subsequently changed) of only two IJN carriers. Those initial sightings determined the course flown by both Enterprise and Yorktown's air groups, but not that of the Hornet's unless one takes into account the intelligence of more IJN carriers.

Nevertheless, Cohesion of both the Enterprise and Hornet air groups disintegrated after being released to depart from their assembly orbits over their carriers. Gray's VF-6 escorts at high altitude did mistakenly follow low flying Waldron's VT-8 through its later departure from Ring's course.

As hypothesized in Lundstrom's BSA, Ring may have been looking for a brace of unreported IJN carriers suspected to be to the north of the actual reports. Ring's SBD's and F4F's followed his direction until fuel became an issue and the group cohesion disintegrated with some heading for Midway, some back to the Hornet and some into the ocean (all 10 F4F's and 3 SBD's eventually ditched).

So the only element of the Enterprise Air Group that actually followed the Hornet's was Gray's VF-6, by misidentification and only to follow Waldron. If the two groups had actually followed the same course, then of course Hornet's aircraft might have actually participated in the attack or conversely, the Enterprise aircraft would have missed the morning battle as did the Hornet.

Lindsey's VT-6 flew almost directly to the IJN, while the bulk of the Enterprise Air group, consisting of VB-6 & VS-6 flew a course slightly more southerly than VT-6, but, thanks to McClusky's hunch, managed to arrive a bit after the attack by VT-6 and from a different direction.

The Yorktown's air group led by Leslie (VB-3), Massey (VT-3) and Thach (VF-3), launched later but seemed to fly an unerring a course directly to the IJN carriers. The Yorktown's squadrons, heavily salted with vets of the Coral Sea and the Lae-Salamua raid, retained their air group's cohesion throughout the attack and launched the only USN attacks that could be described as coordinated during the day.
 
No, the Enterprise Air Group did not follow the exact same course as the Hornet SBD's and F4F's, but did in a general sense. Both carrier air groups made the same mistake of flying a SW rather than a more Westerly course. Apparently the Hornet air group flew 265 deg and the Enterprise flew even more to the SW. In fact, when the Hornet WIldcats turned back just before 2 hours into the flight the lead pilots apparently sighted the IJN fleet during the 180 degree turn - and did not bother to mention it to anyone over the radio, just as the Enterprise Wildcats arrived over the IJN fleet and did not bother to mention that fact to anyone until they hit bingo fuel and headed for Midway.

Both the Yorktown leadership and Lt Cmdr John Waldron figured out that the IJN would be launching and recovering aircraft under combat conditions and given the necessity to turn into the wind to launch and recover aircraft would not be moving at the same speed as the last sighting report. So they would be further to the north.

Thatch and his VF-6 had only 6 F4F's to escort the TBD's and lost one immediately; the rest of VF-6 was back defending the Yorktown, which had become separated from Enterprise and Hornet by about 50 miles. There were something like 48 Zeros attacking the TBD's and VF-6 could not even defend themselves, but did account for a number of Zeros.
 
"Both carrier air groups made the same mistake of flying a SW rather than a more Westerly course."

When you say, "both carrier air groups.... [flew southwest], I am assuming you mean Enterprise and Hornet and that Southwest was a mistake and west was the correct direction to intercept the JN fleet. Please tell us your source for this:

I can tell you that the sources I listed all say the Hornet flew 265 degrees True, virtually due west while Yorktown and Enterprise both flew a more Southwestly course, at about 230 degrees. Check Symonds Battle of Midway, Map 8, "American counterattack" Map 9 Flight to Nowhere. Both show the Hornet air group headed nearly due West and Enterprise & Yorktown strokes headed Southwest.
Lundstrom, First Team shows the Bowen Weisheit, 1984 Map with Ring headed slightly North of due West. His later book, Black Shoe Admiral Does not show the Hornet's Air Group track but does show both Yorktown and Enterprise successful attacks resulting from their Southwest course intercept of the IJN carriers. He does provide the following text: "Waldron... grew frustrated and angry after Ring set the westerly course for his airgroup. He preferred attacking the two carriers already located to the Southwest. After a vehement exchanges with Ring.... Waldron Swung Southwest."

Figure (Map) 15-1 (adapted from Lundstrom) in Shattered Sword, entitled graphically shows the stuation The Hornet strike goes west while Yorktown and Enterprise air groups fly to the Southwest and intercept the IJN Carriers.

The only source for a southwesterly course for the Hornet Air Wing I could find is in Tuleja in his 1960-vintage Climax at Midway, who writes and interesting, but very flawed account, unfortunately, like Morrison, Lord, and Prange based their history on incomplete and suspect sources. The mountain of research done since 1960 provides a very different account of the battle. I can only reiterate my suggestion that you read Lundstrom, Symonds and/or Marshall & Tully.
 
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Thatch and his VF-6 had only 6 F4F's to escort the TBD's and lost one immediately; the rest of VF-6 was back defending the Yorktown, which had become separated from Enterprise and Hornet by about 50 miles. There were something like 48 Zeros attacking the TBD's and VF-6 could not even defend themselves, but did account for a number of Zeros.

Thach - note only one "t" - commanded VF-3 off Yorktown, not VF-6 off Enterprise. Yorktown's VF-3 CAP did not go into action until the first Hiryu strike appeared . . . Thach, Dibb, Macomber, and Cheek were already back aboard.
 
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I see that both Morrison in his Volume 4, and Prange in Miracle at Midway appear to make the same mistake as Tuleja. They all seem to be supportive of the Hornet air group flying roughly the same SW course as Enterprise, but then failing to follow McClusky's expanding-square search pattern.

(Aside: it's difficult enough to fly a slow, expanding-square search pattern with just one slow aircraft, if the wind is a significant factor. I can only imagine how difficult it would be for a formation of 30+ aircraft to maintain any cohesion while doing one.)

The Naval War college analysis was an accepted source for many of these early accounts. I think the recent historical conclusion was that the early accounts by first class historians were heavily corrupted by politics; namely the desire of the Naval Aviation and its post war senior leadership establishment to cover Marc Mitscher's butt. He was something of a fair-haired boy in Naval Aviation circles, having opted it as his career path very early, unlike Halsey, who was considered a Johnny-Come-Lately (Lundstrom's account). Mitscher did great things later in the war but seems to have had a serious judgement lapse during Midway. (Parsifal bristled at such revisionist notions, sure miss the guy, but later research seems to bear this out). Spruance was not popular with the aviators and went through a period of trial in the brown shoe courtroom due to his cautious retirement to the East, after the fateful 4rth. After the war, his reputation was rehabilitated although it was never doubted by Nimitz. At Midway, Spruance followed CINCPac's orders to the letter, after Fletcher released him to lead. OTOH, Fletcher became the goat for over a century, until rehabilitated by Lundstrom. Fletcher's over-all performance looks far better in retrospect, once he was out from under the shadow of peer jealousy (mainly by the butt-covering & Aviation JCL, Richmond Kelly Turner) added to the standard aviator bias against anyone not wearing brown shoes.
 
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Should have added, Russell's 2006 No Right to Win. In it he relates Weisheit's pre-1996 (dramatic) interview of VS-8 CO Walt Rodee for his book: The last flight of Ensign C. Markland Kelly, Jr., USNR.

I paraphrase what follows:

Weisheit: [Did Waldron take the given course?}

Rodee: We all took the given course, the {one} they (Hornet Air Ops & Ring) gave us.

Weisheit: 240?

Rodee: No, about 265

Weisheit: 265?

Rodee: 260, no 265. It was almost due West.

This is confirmed by the Hornet Air Ops Officer, J.G. Foster who said the air group was ordered to fly nearly due West.
 
Jetcal: "Although neither Mitscher or Ring come out smelling like roses, a sympathetic eye must be directed to the relative inexperience of a ship that was so new."

Of course, as has been said here in the past, part of Hornet's training deficiency was due directly to its involvement in the Dooittle Raid, when the air wing was sequestered in the Hornet's hangar bay by a flight deck full of B-25's.
 

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