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What Is The Last Movie/Show You Saw? (29 Viewers)
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Viking1066
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Wing Commander (1999). Sad it wasn't like the books.
Watched Dune I and Dune 2 with Timothee Chalamet and Zendaya.
If you know something about the actual story, this is not a good series.
It seems to rewrite some things in the interest of DEI but that messes with some of the relationships that may get revealed later or perhaps never in this series. There seems to be a lot of hype and advertising for Dune 3 but the casting was all wrong for this series.'
So far, the best Dune movie is still the one from 1984. The next best which isn't really any worse, but just different is the one on YouTube.
The YouTube version tells the story a lot further.
If you know something about the actual story, this is not a good series.
It seems to rewrite some things in the interest of DEI but that messes with some of the relationships that may get revealed later or perhaps never in this series. There seems to be a lot of hype and advertising for Dune 3 but the casting was all wrong for this series.'
So far, the best Dune movie is still the one from 1984. The next best which isn't really any worse, but just different is the one on YouTube.
The YouTube version tells the story a lot further.
I would disagree. I found that it followed the books more than any other movies done to date. Far more than the 1984 one. My only issue was not including Alia. That said, I am looking for the third iteration.
Let's not bring the DEI BS into this please.
Dr . Kynes was the Imperial ecologist assigned to Dune who went native and actually fathered a child with a native woman.
The child was Chani. Now, HOW does the Dr. Kynes in the current Dune movies fit into that role???
Dr. Kynes in the latest movies is the wrong sex and wrong colour, thus the comment about DEI changes because it didn't make sense to have a black woman play that role.
- Ivan.
The child was Chani. Now, HOW does the Dr. Kynes in the current Dune movies fit into that role???
Dr. Kynes in the latest movies is the wrong sex and wrong colour, thus the comment about DEI changes because it didn't make sense to have a black woman play that role.
- Ivan.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Just like in Battlestar Galactica reboot, Starbuck was "reimagined" as a female to show feminine empowerment, but totally missed the point.
In the original series, the fighter pilots became incapacitated and the women stepped up and took over, proving that they were equal to the task.
Turning Starbuck into a female is a major step backwards, as it cancels the original spotlight on what the women accomished in the cannon.
This new age appeasement is complete bullshit.
A4K
Brigadier General
Oh, frack! I'll stick with the original.
So people pick a single point in each show to get upset about...sigh. I still stand by my position that the latest dune movies were closest to the books. They were also well done.
As for BSG, I think casting Katee Sackhoff as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace was a good move. If anyone wants to complain about painful characters I would point to James Callis as Gaius Baltar.
As for re-imagining shows (movie or TV), should I point to the umpteenth iterations of Batman...Superman...and so on?
As for BSG, I think casting Katee Sackhoff as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace was a good move. If anyone wants to complain about painful characters I would point to James Callis as Gaius Baltar.
As for re-imagining shows (movie or TV), should I point to the umpteenth iterations of Batman...Superman...and so on?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The problem with the Battlestar Galactica reboot, is it had nothing to do with the original.
Apollo and Starbuck were close and long time friends. The Cylons were an ancient race that was determined to exterminate the human race while inadvertently exterminating themselves in the process, leaving the cybernetics in control.
The 12 colonies were searching for the 13th (Terra) while escaping the Cylons.
Etc., etc., etc....
The reboot does not follow this at all - it is literally a stand-alone sci-fi story thatsteals borrows from BSG.
Apollo and Starbuck were close and long time friends. The Cylons were an ancient race that was determined to exterminate the human race while inadvertently exterminating themselves in the process, leaving the cybernetics in control.
The 12 colonies were searching for the 13th (Terra) while escaping the Cylons.
Etc., etc., etc....
The reboot does not follow this at all - it is literally a stand-alone sci-fi story that
Zippythehog
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IMHO, good fiction challenges preconceptions and forces a re-examination of concepts you've settled in your mind. The BSG-reboot did that for me.
Further, I was able to suspend my disbelief in the mini-series, when Lee Adama complains that the autoland system was down-whining that he was hands on through the whole approach.
I watched BSG in the 80s. I agree, there isn't much similarity between the two (names and evil robots in space aside). But I wont make time to watch the original series. I will rewatch the reimagined series.
Further, I was able to suspend my disbelief in the mini-series, when Lee Adama complains that the autoland system was down-whining that he was hands on through the whole approach.
I watched BSG in the 80s. I agree, there isn't much similarity between the two (names and evil robots in space aside). But I wont make time to watch the original series. I will rewatch the reimagined series.
Another comment is that the emperor in the latest series was a wimp plain and simple.
The 1984 emperor (Jose Ferrer) was at least a bit resistant to losing his throne. Christopher Walken is a pretty good actor, so the issue must be the script. Vladimir Harkonnen's disabilities were quite obvious in the first movie. They are much less so in the current movie.
- Ivan.
The 1984 emperor (Jose Ferrer) was at least a bit resistant to losing his throne. Christopher Walken is a pretty good actor, so the issue must be the script. Vladimir Harkonnen's disabilities were quite obvious in the first movie. They are much less so in the current movie.
- Ivan.
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Another movie I saw recently was "Sahara" from 1995.
This was a remake of the 1943 Humphrey Bogart movie about a M3 Lee Tank.
There are not many times a remake is better than the original, but I believe this one was.
There were not many changes, but the changes made sense and made for better continuity in the story.
-Ivan.
This was a remake of the 1943 Humphrey Bogart movie about a M3 Lee Tank.
There are not many times a remake is better than the original, but I believe this one was.
There were not many changes, but the changes made sense and made for better continuity in the story.
-Ivan.
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Zippythehog
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Ecky Thump!
SaparotRob
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Airframes
Benevolens Magister
"The Fourth Protocol". With a young Pierce Brosnan, and still pretty good after 38 years.
