When does 'art' become porn?

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6 Years old and dressing her up like a floozy to win pageants.
 

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I can't think of a single justifiable reason as to why it was advantageous to use a 13 year old over an 18 year old - unless he's using the 'shock method' to get famous quicker (the old 'get your record banned, and it will sell like hot cakes' trick)..?
 
They can argue in the courts all they want about art and what isn't - at least there is a yardstick to compare by or start from. But these "Little Miss" pageants are horrible! Someone ought to look into that - I think its just as bad.
 
Njaco said:
They can argue in the courts all they want about art and what isn't - at least there is a yardstick to compare by or start from. But these "Little Miss" pageants are horrible! Someone ought to look into that - I think its just as bad.
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Fully agreed.
 
I watch Law Order Special Victims Unit all the time, and I've learned that child porn can be from infancy to like age 16. I hope they arrest his ass for child endangerment
 
evangilder said:
I was thinking the same thing, njaco. The whole Ramsey case was disturbing. And Lucky, a good Louisville slugger would definitely do the trick.
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Uh ? Enlighten me there, Evan... What is a Louisville slugger ?

Trebor said:
I watch Law Order Special Victims Unit all the time, and I've learned that child porn can be from infancy to like age 16. I hope they arrest his ass for child endangerment
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Yes, in the US at least. Anything pornography made with peoples under the age of concent (16 in the US, 14 in Canada) is considered child pornography. Above that age ( but still under 18 ) it bears an other name... And the punishment is not as severe.

And it just remembered me of something I heard in the news lately... Well, in fact it's two stories. Thanks Howard Stern...

The Associated Press: Teens are sending nude photos via cell phone
Teen Nabbed For Naked MySpace Photos - May 21, 2008
 
A Louisville slugger is a good 'ol wooden baseball bat. So named because I believe that they're made in St. Louis, MO. Or at least they used to be.
 
Actually, it's made in Louisville Kentucky by the Hillerich and Bradsby company. The company is also known for hockey sticks, baseball gloves and other sports equipment. They also make an aluminum slugger called the Exogrid. But this'll work:
 

Depends on your defenition of pornography Maestro. The US courts have repeatedly held that images of nudity {even of a child} are not pornography as long as there is no "sexual content"

But the question is this - If the 17 year old is charged with pornography, why was the original "producer" not charged? {the 16 yr old girl who sent the pics via e-mail}
 
Maestro said:
May be because she is also the victim ? She "self-photographed" to make a "surprise" to her boyfriend, but the bastard published the pictures.
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Ah yes but it would be hard to justify a very stiff charge against him but not her.

And unless she was engaged in some "sexual activity" it does not meet the defenition of child porn to begin with.

Don't misunderstand me, I sympathise with this girl to some extent, but it's time that these silly girls who e-mail their pictures realize that they have done this to themselves.
 

Talking of Miley Cyrus, I just found that article... Now the real question : Do you believe it ? I don't. If that had happened to my daughter, I would have took an apointment with her publicist and showed up wit a MEB in my back pocket.

The Associated Press: Cyrus says he was surprised by Vanity Fair photo
 

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As a result of the 'Henson Affair', Australian parents may be banned from taking photos of their children at school activities and sports events...




Parents banned from snapping kids at sport | NEWS.com.au


Parents banned from snapping kids at sport

June 22, 2008 03:01am
Article from: The Sunday Telegraph

PARENTS are furious after being banned from taking photographs of their children at weekend sporting events.

They say the Bill Henson affair has made sports clubs paranoid about allowing them to photograph their children.

Henson was cleared after police seized naked photographs of a 13- year-old girl from an art gallery.

Netball, basketball, rugby league, AFL, cricket, soccer and baseball clubs have imposed rules to prevent photos of young players being taken without the consent of all parents and coaches.

NSW's Macarthur junior baseball league president Maud Goldfinch said parents had to sign a form confirming they would not take photographs without permission.

Ms Goldfinch said that as a parent, she did not agree with the policy, which deprived children of happy sporting memories.

"A lot of parents don't agree with what's going on.

"They're quite upset by not being able to take photos of their children - they see it as an invasion of their privacy.

"The Bill Henson (saga) brought it to a head. It's made people more aware ... and it brings debate around the topic."

Parents also need to give permission before photographs are uploaded to the club's website.

One father said he was made to feel like a pedophile while photographing his eight-year-old daughter on the netball court.

Michael Bianchino lodged a complaint with the Hills District Netball Association after it forbade him to photograph his daughter, Mia, during an under-nine match at Pennant Hills Park on May 31.

"The way I was treated, I was made to feel like a pedophile," Mr Bianchino said.

"I just said: 'I'm taking photos of my daughter - if anyone has a problem with their child being in the image, let me know."'

Club president Jennie Thompson repeatedly refused to comment on the incident, but said the club's policy was that parents could take photographs only after seeking permission.

"Our stance and our club's stance is that we ask people to obtain permission prior to taking photographs of junior players," she said.

Cherrybrook United Netball Club president Debbie Whittle said it was hard to get permission from every parent, so few photographs were taken.

"You want to get these memories for your children to keep.

"It's an important part of their childhood, and you're limited because of all these rulings about getting permission," she said.
 
Blame parents.
How many parents let their kids run nude on the beach?
The moment you take a pic of the waves breaking, a little naked bastard runs in front of the camera, you get arrested for child pornography.

But then again in Africa it is not funny to attend a function where you have 12/13 year old girls dancing without tops and then it is all good.

edd
 
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