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Axis Order of Battle for Operation Barbarossa
65 x Do-17Z. KG2
36 x Do-17Z. KG3
24 x He-111H. KG4
86 x He-111H. KG53
87 x He-111H. KG27
84 x He-111H. KG55
31 x He-111H. KG26
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413 total German level bombers supporting Operation Barbarossa.
So...
In this scenerio I assume 413 German medium level bombers would be replaced by at least 600 heavy level bombers. A nice strength increase.
The key point is that Britain poured huge sums of money into building replacement aircraft and aircrew. Consequently RAF Bomber Command flew over 17,000 sorties at night during May to December 1940 while losing about 340 aircraft. The RAF
shrugged off the losses and just kept on bombing week after week. Give the Luftwaffe bomber force a similiar budget and they will keep on bombing week after week also.
Are you sure about those stats? I get 829 2-engine bombers in 24 June'41 .Source: Luftwaffe Data Book.
So are some RAF aircraft such as the Beaufighter. I'm trying to compare level bomber strength.
the US had a pretty decent fleet in the pacific and less than 200 aircraft negated them. owning the sea does you no good if you dont own the skies overhead and if your adversary can do that you are in a world of hurt.
control of the sea didnt help britian with norway. the blockade didnt fair too well against the bombers. the US had a pretty decent fleet in the pacific and less than 200 aircraft negated them. owning the sea does you no good if you dont own the skies overhead and if your adversary can do that you are in a world of hurt.
We have discussed the pros and cons of the allied bombers (and agreed to differ) Lets look at the situation should the Luftwaffe have had the allied heavy bombers, escort fighters etc and 'we' had the German aircraft.
Given the resources of the Americans and ingenuity of the British would we have still won the war?
Starting with the Blitz....I'm not necessarily convinced that we would have won the BoB as the factories and airfields could have been totally destroyed.
What do you all think?
Cheers
John
You don't need an escort fighter when bombing at night. Which is how the Luftwaffe attacked the Port of London during the fall of 1940 and the Port of Liverpool during May 1941.
I think the outcome in Russia might have been a bit different if the LW could hit the factories in the Urals.
How many aircraft did RAF Bomber Command have as of June 1941?
You take no account of the psychological effects of bombing.
The Zeppelin raids in WW1 caused pandemonium and the Blitz caused damage but, also enraged the general public.
My contention is that the level of infrastructural damage and psychological terror is exponential to the tonnage of bombs delivered.
Cheers
John
19 million tons of food was imported vie the Port of Liverpool. Keep the port closed and Britain will have something more important to worry about then "psychological terror".