1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like (1 Viewer)

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Interceptor-Messerschmitt-109
Fighter- Ki-43
Fighter-bomber- Messerchmitt-110
Bomber- G3M
Attack aircraft - Fiat Cr.42/Hs-123
Dive Bomber- D3A Val
Transport- Ju/52
Shipboard recon- Ar-196
Coastal Bomber/Torperdoe Bomber/Recon- SM.79
Carrier Fighter - Mitsibishi A5M
Carrier Bomber- D3A Val
Carrier Torpedoe Plane- B5N

Yeah i know i kinda went over board with all of the aircaft, all of them really werent needed, but sitting here doing nothing, i find myself scrutinizing what would normally be quick decisions.

For starters, the KI-43 as my standard fighter, yes i know not heavily armed or too fast, no armor or self sealing tanks, but in range it was far superior to my interceptor, the Me-109, therefore, it could be used as an escort as well as a general purpose fighter. Also the Val as both dive bomber, and carrier dive bomber was just to simplify production. The G3M as my bomber, i just thought it all around superior to anything in 1939. Fiat Cr.42's were used in the attack role in north africa, and by the germans in 1944.
 
I think you will find that the Ki43 only entered production in 1941 which came as a surprise to me.

Fighter Spitfire
8 x MG was a heavy armament at the time and the speed second to none.

Heavy Fighter 110
Has to be. Few fighters at the time had its speed and 2 x 20 against bombers without Armour or self sealing fuel tanks was more than sufficient.

Bomber JU 88
An all round plane way ahead of its time

Transport C47
Just had to be

Attack Bloch 152
Radial engine, good low down speed and 2 x 20 in 1939. I know there are no bombs but planes that did in 1939 tended to be shot down in droves.

Carrier Fighter Wildcat OK if were picky about dates Buffalo
The only alternative is the A5 but I don't like planes with 2xLMG. If they used speed and dive even the Buffalo stands a chance.

Carrier Bomber Blackburn Skua
Dauntless is the obvious choice but I feel the Skua was one of those planes that was never given a chance.

Carrier Torpedo A5
Always liked this plane and for its time a good performer
 
Fighter, Spitfire Mk. I, dive bomber SBD, light bomber A-20, medium bomber the He-111 or the Wellington, heavy bomber the B-17, transport C-39 (a C-47 forerunner).
 
Air superiorority fighter-F-80 Shooting Star,A6M-ZERO/Spitfire
Bomber Intercepter-Hurricane
Recon-P-38, Mosquito,
Bomber-Mosquito,B-24,and the Halifax.

Carrier planes would be Multi-roles so Instead of three classes of aircraft it would be 2, fighter/bomber and torpedo planes on their own.

NAVY/Fighter/bomber-F4U-Corsair
Navy/Torpedo/ Swordfish, or the Devestator.
 
evangilder said:
Looks like an all Axis list to me. I would have taken a C-47 over the Ju-52 any day of the week.

Same here, was a better aircraft than the Ju-52. I still love the old Tante Ju though. She is to me also an aircraft synonimous with WW2. I just saw a good show on the Ju-52/3m that Lufthansa is still flying for nostalgia. Would love to fly in one just say I did.

102first_hussars said:
Air superiorority fighter-F-80 Shooting Star,A6M-ZERO/Spitfire
Bomber Intercepter-Hurricane
Recon-P-38, Mosquito,
Bomber-Mosquito,B-24,and the Halifax.

Carrier planes would be Multi-roles so Instead of three classes of aircraft it would be 2, fighter/bomber and torpedo planes on their own.

NAVY/Fighter/bomber-F4U-Corsair
Navy/Torpedo/ Swordfish, or the Devestator.

Either you do not read the titles of threads or you just post whatever the hell you want and dont care about the title, or you have no clue. Which one is it?

Lets see dates that these aircraft first flew:

F-80: 8 January 1944
Zero: 1 April 1939 (Did not enter full service until 1940 though)
Spitfire: 5 March 1936
Hurricane: November 1935
P-38: 27 January 1939 (Did not enter full service until atleast 1940)
Mosquito: 25 November 1940
B-24: 29 December 1939 (this was only the first prototype though, the rest of the prototypes were not even ready until 1940 though)
Halifax: 24 September 1939 (Did not enter service until 1940 though)
F4U: 29 May 1940
Swordfish: 17 April 1934
Devastator: 1935

So lets see out of the ones you picked 7 of the 11 were not even used in 1939, hell on was not until 1944!
 
So what if some werent used in 1939 they still existed, this would be my airforce of 1939, I would have contracted the company's and order the production of the planes,

Oh Im sorry I added the F80- Shooting Star, just trying to add some creativity didnt realise people would act as if I just massacred their entire family.
 
LoL :shock: .

Hussars, the basics of the question runs something like this:

"If you could choose any aicraft operational in 1939 to create a fictional ulitmate airforce, what would they be?"

So that excludes anything that wasn't in regular squadron service before December 31st, 1939. So you can't include planes that had flow but weren't in service yet, planes that were only in prototype form or planes that hadn't even been designed yet.

Excuse us for calling you on mis-interpreting the question :D
 
Ok let me try again,


Naval Aircraft
Fighter/bomber-Spitfire/two 20mm cannons, 2 500 pounders
Torpedo Bomber-Spitfire also- long wings enables steady low flight.


Army Air Force

Air superiority-Ki 43, Spitfire,He-100,He-178
Bomber Intercept-Hawker Hurricane
Bomber-was the B-24 liberator around back then?
Trainer- Harvard
Transport-C-47,Ju-90
 
Spitfires didn't see regular service with 20mm cannons until late-ish 1940, although cannon fittings were trialed earlier in the year. Even then the cannon installation was somewhat unreliable, and really wasn't perfected until the Mk VB which began service around March/April, 1941.

Spitfires never carried a 2 x 500 lb bomb loadout. The limit for the Spitfire VB/C was 1 500 lb bomb on the centerline or 2 250 lb bombs on the wings (i.e. 500 lbs maximum). All versions after the Mk. IX could carry 2 x 250 lb bombs on the wings and 1 x 500 lb on the centreline, for a maximum load of 1000 lbs. None of these loadouts were used until after 1940.

The Ki-43 didn't see service until 1941. True, it was flown in 1939, but that was only the prototype. There were only 10 airframes produced between 1939 and September 1940, all of which were used for trials and testing.
 
Sorry about the Ki-43 mis-information as a choice for me, i was naive to the fact that it didnt enter service until 1941. As for the Ju52 over the C-47, i dont know why i would choose that, but i just liked the Ju52, seeing some with floats, and the fixed landing gear and tri-motor construciton, just so cool to me. I think i chose it for looks more than anything, cause it reminds me of italian aircraft with the triple engine layout.
 

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