Anything to do with Friedrich Wilhelm Sander and progression to the RAK-1 (Opel rocket)?
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Anything to do with Friedrich Wilhelm Sander and progression to the RAK-1 (Opel rocket)?
p47thunderbolt
Airman
no connection to Sander and the RAK-1 whatsoever. 
Absolutely no idea Chris. Limited personal resources on gliders and very disappointed with my google searches, so I cry "uncle"
Edit: One last attempt. Is that a twin tail?
Possibly the DFS Hangwind?
The Virtual Aviation Museum - Kategorie Gliders and Powered Gliders 1919 to 1938
Edit: One last attempt. Is that a twin tail?
Possibly the DFS Hangwind?
The Virtual Aviation Museum - Kategorie Gliders and Powered Gliders 1919 to 1938
p47thunderbolt
Airman
OK.....barrage of hints
It´s a very historic glider......kind of the Wright Flyer of gliders. In fact, it is one of the most important aircraft ever built in Germany - though most people just overlook it.
first one ever to use upwinds at slopes
first glider to perfomr a circle flight
first one to stay aloft one hour
first one to stay aloft three hours
first one to reach 350m above start height
Set the design principles for all gliders that came after it.
won a lot of prizes
Fortunately it is still with us:
And, last hint, one of the people involved in building it, later headed the design of quite a few important aircraft, amongst them this one:
It´s a very historic glider......kind of the Wright Flyer of gliders. In fact, it is one of the most important aircraft ever built in Germany - though most people just overlook it.
first one ever to use upwinds at slopes
first glider to perfomr a circle flight
first one to stay aloft one hour
first one to stay aloft three hours
first one to reach 350m above start height
Set the design principles for all gliders that came after it.
won a lot of prizes
Fortunately it is still with us:
And, last hint, one of the people involved in building it, later headed the design of quite a few important aircraft, amongst them this one:
A4K
Brigadier General
I can't remember off hand what this is called, but have got info on it in a book at home- will check it out tonight!
HA! Got it! The HAWA Vampyr. Never heard of that before, I'm not familiar with gliders. But with so many hints 
HAWA Vampyr - Wikipedia
You owe me a Störtebeker for that one, Chris
Krabat
HAWA Vampyr - Wikipedia
You owe me a Störtebeker for that one, Chris
Krabat
p47thunderbolt
Airman
Done deal, Krabat!
The unedited image:
The unedited image:
p47thunderbolt
Airman
the second one looks a lot like a Bendix 51
A4K
Brigadier General
Wouldn't have a clue what the new one is, but remembered the Vampyr while I was working!
p47thunderbolt
Airman
A4K, good job, again (as with the Ha 135) at least a 50% kill for you....
A4K
Brigadier General
Danke Donnerschlag! das war ganz nett von Dir! Fünfzig prozent ist besser als nichts, gell?
p47thunderbolt
Airman
Respekt, A4K, tolles Deutsch............oder bist Du Deutscher?
Wow! They do look similar. But no, it's not the Bendix. Made by a company that produced numerous postwar delta-winged jets.
Top one is Italian.
wingnuts
Airman 1st Class
It looks a lot like a Bell design but I can't find any details
wingnuts
Airman 1st Class
I found this in the same general arrangment .........but siller looking
The Stearman-Hammond Model Y-1S.
No doubt about it Wingnut, a very common layout for aircraft. Here's the British Arpin and the Dutch Fokker Promoter as further examples...
A4K
Brigadier General
Thanks again, Thunderbolt! No, I'm a kiwi, but I lived in Wien (Vienna) for 3 and a half years. Haven't spoken German in the eight years since then though, so I've forgotten alot unfortunately (lost my Swedish and Spanish the same way!)
