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The Russian missile cruiser that was damaged in a fire on Thursday was hit and ultimately sunk by Ukrainian missile strikes, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed on Friday. Russia and Ukraine had offered differing accounts of what happened to the vessel.
The defense source confirmed the ship was hit by two Neptune missiles, and told NPR there are likely casualties.
Russia now says 1 crew member died, 27 are missing in the sinking of its warship
Experts say the loss of the Moskva — the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet — is significant both symbolically and militarily, even if it doesn't deal a decisive blow to Russia's overall operations.www.npr.org
I'm assuming he has access to satellite imagery or other intel.
WE HAVE MORE TRACTORSRussia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to "unpredictable consequences," The Washington Post reported.
The letter, which was viewed by [t]he Post, added that the U.S. has flouted the rules governing the transfer of weapons to conflict zones.
According to the letter dated Tuesday, Russia accused NATO of impeding early peace negotiation with Ukraine "in order to continue the bloodshed."
The State Department declined to confirm any private diplomatic correspondence.
Russia sends formal letter warning US to stop arming Ukraine: report
Russia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to “unpredictable …thehill.com
Stop 'em ... if you can.
There definitely were casualties aboard Moskva. Apparently there were only 58 survivors, with all the remainder of the 510 hands onboard either killed in the explosion/fire or going down with the ship. According to Russian sources, the captain was killed in the explosion....and yet they had claimed to have evacuated the entire crew from the ship in the first few hours after Ukraine claimed to have struck the vessel.
"Ukrainian missiles certainly were ammo exploding."Well, I can bought some light to the Moskva sinking..
Rusia says that a fire broke out in the ship and ammo exploiding did the damage.
The ukrainian missiles certainly were ammo exploiding.
So, russians are not lying. At most, not connecting the dots!
BTW, in Putin world, if you are so inept to make Rusia look weak, you don't deserve go back to it. So after the crew go out of the ship and uncle Vlad knows, he simply ordered them back to the ship and let the storm decide if they arrive to Port. That's the reason for the news about the out and in of the crew!
Seriously, if the RF navy is in the same state of readiness than the army, the sinking is in no way unexpected. Poor training and not applying SOP for combat could lead to open watertight compartments that spread the fire (what ever the cause) and ineffective firefight and control measures .
probably only 14 sailors survived Moskva sunk - for now 496 men are reported missing....
A really good article, many thanks for finding and posting it.Here's a fantastic artical about rhe parallels between the current Uktaine situation and Finland back in '39 - One of my favorite parts if the artical, is the part that states that the Ukraine and Finland are members of the "f**k around and find out" club!
Before the Ukrainians, It Was the Finns Who Kicked Russia’s Ass
The largely forgotten Winter War of 1939-40.www.thebulwark.com
- It's dead.So Russia first claims that they got the entire crew off the Moskva....then somehow they got the fire under control (without the crew)....then they put all the crew back onboard....and then the ship sinks losing all hands except 58 survivors. Am I tracking that correctly?
To add further evidence that Russia's account is nonsense, the Kremlin claimed that Moskva was not hit by Ukrainian missiles but instead suffered a fire. However, overnight, Russia attacked a Ukrainian missile facility in Kyiv that was responsible for cruise missiles and, crucially, anti-ship missiles:
The Russian defence ministry says it has carried out missile strikes targeting Ukraine's capital, Kyiv, warning that attacks like this will intensify in retaliation for what it called Ukrainian "terror attacks" or "acts of sabotage" in Russia.
Russia says its sea-based cruise missiles struck a factory in the city overnight, which produces air-defence systems and anti-ship missiles.
As a result, the plant's "workshops for the production and repair of long-range and medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as anti-ship missiles, were destroyed", the ministry added in a statement published on its Telegram channel.
On Thursday, Russia accused Ukraine of sending helicopters across the border to attack several Russian towns.
The BBC is unable to verify these claims from Moscow.
Yeah...the whole "fire onboard" story is ENTIRELY plausible...NOT!!!!
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence is also mocking the Russian Navy....made me LOL!
Yes, historical fact. Just a bit earlier. Molotov's visit in November 1940.I'm always reminded of the conversation that took place in early 1941 in Berlin before Germany attacked Russia. The Russian ambassador and Russian Minister were in Berlin and there was an air raid in progress. The Russian minister turned to the German politician and asked why if everything was going so well, why were they in the bomb shelter and not the British?