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Thumpalumpacus
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Russia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to "unpredictable consequences," The Washington Post reported.
The letter, which was viewed by [t]he Post, added that the U.S. has flouted the rules governing the transfer of weapons to conflict zones.
According to the letter dated Tuesday, Russia accused NATO of impeding early peace negotiation with Ukraine "in order to continue the bloodshed."
The State Department declined to confirm any private diplomatic correspondence.
thehill.com
Stop 'em ... if you can.
The letter, which was viewed by [t]he Post, added that the U.S. has flouted the rules governing the transfer of weapons to conflict zones.
According to the letter dated Tuesday, Russia accused NATO of impeding early peace negotiation with Ukraine "in order to continue the bloodshed."
The State Department declined to confirm any private diplomatic correspondence.
Russia sends formal letter warning US to stop arming Ukraine: report
Russia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to “unpredictable …
thehill.com
Stop 'em ... if you can.
Thumpalumpacus
Captain
The Russian missile cruiser that was damaged in a fire on Thursday was hit and ultimately sunk by Ukrainian missile strikes, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed on Friday. Russia and Ukraine had offered differing accounts of what happened to the vessel.
The defense source confirmed the ship was hit by two Neptune missiles, and told NPR there are likely casualties.
Russia now says 1 crew member died, 27 are missing in the sinking of its warship
Experts say the loss of the Moskva — the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet — is significant both symbolically and militarily, even if it doesn't deal a decisive blow to Russia's overall operations.
www.npr.org
I'm assuming he has access to satellite imagery or other intel.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Here's a fantastic artical about rhe parallels between the current Uktaine situation and Finland back in '39 - One of my favorite parts if the artical, is the part that states that the Ukraine and Finland are members of the "f**k around and find out" club! 
www.thebulwark.com
Before the Ukrainians, It Was the Finns Who Kicked Russia’s Ass - The Bulwark
The largely forgotten Winter War of 1939-40.
www.thebulwark.com
buffnut453
Captain
The Russian missile cruiser that was damaged in a fire on Thursday was hit and ultimately sunk by Ukrainian missile strikes, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed on Friday. Russia and Ukraine had offered differing accounts of what happened to the vessel.
The defense source confirmed the ship was hit by two Neptune missiles, and told NPR there are likely casualties.
Russia now says 1 crew member died, 27 are missing in the sinking of its warship
Experts say the loss of the Moskva — the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet — is significant both symbolically and militarily, even if it doesn't deal a decisive blow to Russia's overall operations.
I'm assuming he has access to satellite imagery or other intel.
There definitely were casualties aboard Moskva. Apparently there were only 58 survivors, with all the remainder of the 510 hands onboard either killed in the explosion/fire or going down with the ship. According to Russian sources, the captain was killed in the explosion....and yet they had claimed to have evacuated the entire crew from the ship in the first few hours after Ukraine claimed to have struck the vessel.
hawkeye2an
Staff Sergeant
WE HAVE MORE TRACTORSRussia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to "unpredictable consequences," The Washington Post reported.
The letter, which was viewed by [t]he Post, added that the U.S. has flouted the rules governing the transfer of weapons to conflict zones.
According to the letter dated Tuesday, Russia accused NATO of impeding early peace negotiation with Ukraine "in order to continue the bloodshed."
The State Department declined to confirm any private diplomatic correspondence.
Russia sends formal letter warning US to stop arming Ukraine: report
Russia has sent a formal letter to the U.S. warning that shipments of sensitive weapons from the United States and NATO were exacerbating tensions in Ukraine and could lead to “unpredictable …
Stop 'em ... if you can.
Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
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- Feb 27, 2020
Well, I can bought some light to the Moskva sinking..
Rusia says that a fire broke out in the ship and ammo exploiding did the damage.
The ukrainian missiles certainly were ammo exploiding.
So, russians are not lying. At most, not connecting the dots!
BTW, in Putin world, if you are so inept to make Rusia look weak, you don't deserve go back to it. So after the crew go out of the ship and uncle Vlad knows, he simply ordered them back to the ship and let the storm decide if they arrive to Port. That's the reason for the news about the out and in of the crew!
Seriously, if the RF navy is in the same state of readiness than the army, the sinking is in no way unexpected. Poor training and not applying SOP for combat could lead to open watertight compartments that spread the fire (what ever the cause) and ineffective firefight and control measures .
Rusia says that a fire broke out in the ship and ammo exploiding did the damage.
The ukrainian missiles certainly were ammo exploiding.
So, russians are not lying. At most, not connecting the dots!
BTW, in Putin world, if you are so inept to make Rusia look weak, you don't deserve go back to it. So after the crew go out of the ship and uncle Vlad knows, he simply ordered them back to the ship and let the storm decide if they arrive to Port. That's the reason for the news about the out and in of the crew!
Seriously, if the RF navy is in the same state of readiness than the army, the sinking is in no way unexpected. Poor training and not applying SOP for combat could lead to open watertight compartments that spread the fire (what ever the cause) and ineffective firefight and control measures .
Thumpalumpacus
Captain
Yeah, as in so many other instances the Russians just can't seem to get their story straight ... or their act together.
I wonder how this sinking will affect the war in the south.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Thumpalumpacus
Captain
Do you or anyone else have good sources for casualties? I've been looking around and they're mostly vague and don't accord with each other.
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I keep reading that the ship sent out an SOS in morse code. Is that still used?
www.dailymail.co.uk
From the article:
"Rumours have also began circulating in Ukrainian media that Admiral Igor Osipov - the commander of Russia's Black Sea fleet which the Moskva led - has been arrested in what would be the latest in a string of detentions linked to the bungled invasion.
Leonid Nevzlin, a Russian-Israeli businessman who fled the country in 2003 after being targeted by Putin, said yesterday that 20 Russian generals have been arrested over the military's failings along with 150 FSB officers for providing false information about Ukraine's defences."
Relatives of Moskva crew defy Russian censors with unofficial memorial
Ukraine said it launched a missile strike on the Moskva from the coast, which ripped open the Soviet-era ship. Russia admitted last night that the ship sank, but has not said anything of an attack.
From the article:
"Rumours have also began circulating in Ukrainian media that Admiral Igor Osipov - the commander of Russia's Black Sea fleet which the Moskva led - has been arrested in what would be the latest in a string of detentions linked to the bungled invasion.
Leonid Nevzlin, a Russian-Israeli businessman who fled the country in 2003 after being targeted by Putin, said yesterday that 20 Russian generals have been arrested over the military's failings along with 150 FSB officers for providing false information about Ukraine's defences."
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That's how to foster Espirit des Corps!
hawkeye2an
Staff Sergeant
Glider
Captain
A really good article, many thanks for finding and posting it.Here's a fantastic artical about rhe parallels between the current Uktaine situation and Finland back in '39 - One of my favorite parts if the artical, is the part that states that the Ukraine and Finland are members of the "f**k around and find out" club!
Before the Ukrainians, It Was the Finns Who Kicked Russia’s Ass - The Bulwark
The largely forgotten Winter War of 1939-40.
Personally I found this quote by Khrushchev in 1970 about the Finnish War which is repeating itself today
Even in these most favorable conditions it was only after great difficulty and enormous losses that we were finally able to win. A victory at such a cost was actually a moral defeat. Our people never knew [in 1940] that we had suffered a moral defeat, of course, because they were never told the truth. Quite the contrary. When the Finnish war ended our country was told, "Let the trumpets of victory sound!" But the seeds of doubt had been sown
Admiral Beez
Captain
This is always fun to see the Russian propaganda machine at work.
sputniknews.com
US, Allies Face Depleted Weapons Stockpiles As 'Aid' to Kiev 'Blows Through' Supplies: Report
Thousands of Javelin anti-tank weapon systems, Stinger anti-aircraft systems, and other lethal weapons have already been given to Ukraine by Washington, with the White House announcing on 13 April that it will send $800 million in...
sputniknews.com
Glider
Captain
Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to access this article
Yes, historical fact. Just a bit earlier. Molotov's visit in November 1940.
