"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (9 Viewers)

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SaparotRob said:
Of course we will all find flaws with the movie version.
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At least there will be no shortage of Russian kit to use as props.

Imagine how cool it would be to make a war flick on the actual battlefield (war movies....new postwar industry for Ukraine?) and using tanks etc that actually took part.
 
Wildcat said:
Scott Ritter. WTF has he been smoking?
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Kickbacks - and hopefully in Rubles...

Marcel said:
They also had a thriving industry of cybercrime. One I would not be sad to get rid of. Hopefully they use those skills now on the Russian army.
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Did you see where, back in March, someone hacked into Putin's yacht recognition code? :lol:

news.yahoo.com

Hackers changed the call sign of a Putin-linked superyacht to 'FCKPTN' and set the ship's destination as 'hell'

The Anonymous hacking group took credit for the hack, posting on Twitter: "Now Putin's yacht is on the right track!"
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
 
US M60 are in long term storage for decades, they will need a complete rebuild to be of any use. Even then in standard condition they are not suitable for a modern battlefield and need a massive upgrade package. Similar for Leopard 1 although it has better mobility to start with. At best they could be used in defensive or ambush positions, they'd have to quickly move like hell once detected or they'll be easy meat for ATGMs.
Maybe they could be offered to smaller nations in exchange for russian equipment to be sent to Ukraine. Better send more M1s to Poland so they can offer the rest of their T-72 and variants
 
Denniss said:
US M60 are in long term storage for decades, they will need a complete rebuild to be of any use.
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If Ukraine has to wait a year for refurbished/modernized M60s they might as well wait for the latest gen tanks. But if the Abrams is too complicated/novel/demanding for Ukraine's abilities/training/logistics and the Leopard 2 is blocked by German rückgratlosigkeit, what other options beyond scrounging across Europe (and Asia/Africa?) for more T-72s and T-64s and their derivates are there?
 
Denniss said:
Fleets of M1s/Leo 2s/Leclercs attacking russian positions = Putin claims Nato attacks us
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Surely NATO-supplied HIMARS, artillery, IFVs and MANPATS/PADS would have provoked Putin to claim as such already?

What about the South Koreans? In July Poland ordered MBTs from South Korea. Maybe these (and the 48 FA-50) can be flipped straight to Ukraine, with the US giving more Abrams (and F-16s) to Poland in exchange?

www.reuters.com

South Korea, Poland sign $5.8 billion tank, howitzer contract

Two South Korean companies have signed a $5.76 billion contract with Poland to export tanks and howitzers, Seoul's arms procurement agency said on Saturday, after Warsaw agreed to ramp up arms imports amid tensions with Russia.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

I was just watching this. I can't recall any wartime president listing off multitudes of specific brigades and smaller units for commendation on national media. Impressive.

 
Admiral Beez said:
If Ukraine has to wait a year for refurbished/modernized M60s they might as well wait for the latest gen tanks. But if the Abrams is too complicated/novel/demanding for Ukraine's abilities/training/logistics and the Leopard 2 is blocked by German rückgratlosigkeit, what other options beyond scrounging across Europe (and Asia/Africa?) for more T-72s and T-64s and their derivates are there?
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Thumpalumpacus said:
From your supplied link:

Continued Russian attacks on U.S. or allied "soil or systems" merit a steady roll-back of appeasement-based policies crafted to reduce wider tensions and discourage Russian efforts to expand their invasion beyond Ukraine.

The carrots have failed and it is now time to try some sticks.

Rolling back Europe's informal commitment to keep Western-sourced tanks, aircraft, and other "offensive" weaponry out of Ukraine is a logical first step. Russia only cares about the battlefield if the Russian Army loses significant ground or faces a significant loss.

I think that cyber attacks on government or infrastructure should be regarded as an act of war, perhaps cause for shooting, perhaps cause for cyber-responses; but this treating them as nothing is crap.
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If they are being treated as nothing, and the responses aren't being publicize. They also may be getting ignored because they're completely ineffective.
 
RogerdeLluria said:
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Less than 24 hours ago, we were highlighting that Borova would be the next town encircled by Ukrainian forces....and here we are, with that task complete, and further advances being made into "Russian" territory. The offensive is picking up pace again.

I will say that, for the most part, Ukraine's claims on progress seem to be pretty accurate. They announced they'd successfully crossed the Oskil River and, despite a few temporary setbacks, they held that line and have pushed eastwards from that bridgehead. Same-same for encircling Lyman.

Great to see the offensive continuing. Hope they kick all the orcs out of Ukrainian territory.
 
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