"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (8 Viewers)

SaparotRob · Mar 8, 2022

One interesting point they brought up is that it could be a land battle rather than one in the air.
As there seems to be little in VKS activity over Ukraine, this seems to have a kernel of truth. Might that reduce the chance of escalation since no one will launching strikes behind Russian or NATO lines to take out airbases?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 8, 2022

SaparotRob said:
One interesting point they brought up is that it could be a land battle rather than one in the air.
As there seems to be little in VKS activity over Ukraine, this seems to have a kernel of truth. Might that reduce the chance of escalation since no one will launching strikes behind Russian or NATO lines to take out airbases?

It still has to be a Ukrainian victory.

Thumpalumpacus · Mar 8, 2022

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
I would say he is correct. Unfortunately, it seems that the defeat has to come from Ukraine.

I believe that can possibly happen with our non-fighting support.

SaparotRob · Mar 8, 2022

Hope so.

Thumpalumpacus · Mar 8, 2022

SaparotRob said:
Hope so.

The Ukrainian army will have to avoid encirclement and safeguard the western border with Poland. That will provide a solid land link through which to funnel Lend-Lease -- directly into an area with good terrain for asymmetrical war.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 8, 2022

Thumpalumpacus said:
I believe that can possibly happen with our non-fighting support.

Agreed

buffnut453 · Mar 8, 2022

It seems there's no less appetite for disinformation over the war in Ukraine, with some claiming the whole thing is a hoax (where have I heard that before?):

Ukraine invasion: False claims the war is a hoax go viral

False claims have been spreading that the Ukraine war is a hoax and that actors have been involved in staging events.

www.bbc.com

Thumpalumpacus · Mar 8, 2022

buffnut453 said:
It seems there's no less appetite for disinformation over the war in Ukraine, with some claiming the whole thing is a hoax (where have I heard that before?):

Ukraine invasion: False claims the war is a hoax go viral

False claims have been spreading that the Ukraine war is a hoax and that actors have been involved in staging events.

www.bbc.com

Carl Sagan said:
It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.

I am so freakin' tired of these conspiracy numpties.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 8, 2022

buffnut453 said:
It seems there's no less appetite for disinformation over the war in Ukraine, with some claiming the whole thing is a hoax (where have I heard that before?):

Ukraine invasion: False claims the war is a hoax go viral

False claims have been spreading that the Ukraine war is a hoax and that actors have been involved in staging events.

www.bbc.com

I know right?

Not going down that rabbit hole though…

vikingBerserker · Mar 8, 2022

I think it's those godless Swiss!

VintageIron · Mar 8, 2022

Crimea_River said:
The 4 Indictments lodged in the Nuremburg trials: (1) crimes against peace (i.e., the planning, initiating, and waging of wars of aggression in violation of international treaties and agreements), (2) crimes against humanity (i.e., exterminations, deportations, and genocide), (3) war crimes (i.e., violations of the laws of war), and (4) "a common plan or conspiracy to commit" the criminal acts listed in the first three counts.

So far, 1 and 4 have been met. Hope the trial starts soon.

Interesting reading your post, the movie Judgment at Nuremburg was on the other night, a fine film, the line from Burt Lancaster, echoed with me, while the context is different, the words still apply, "...Are we going to do this again?"

msxyz · Mar 8, 2022

As I predicted, China steps in the "great pacifier" role. The big looser in the long run of this war will be the EU but, as Vicky Nuland aptly said, "F*** the EU!"

That's the result of not having a strong identity and letting the show being run by weak politicians.

tomo pauk · Mar 8, 2022

msxyz said:
As I predicted, China steps in the "great pacifier" role. The big looser in the long run of this war will be the EU but, as Vicky Nuland aptly said, "F*** the EU!"

That's the result of not having a strong identity and letting the show being run by weak politicians.

Politics - let's keep that away?

msxyz · Mar 8, 2022

tomo pauk said:
Politics - let's keep that away?

Yep. The second sentence is slippery. Apologies

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 8, 2022

Biden bans U.S. imports of Russian oil and natural gas, and Britain vows to phase Russian oil out. (Published 2022)

The British also said they would phase out imports of Russian oil by the end of the year to increase the economic isolation of Russia’s president, Vladimir. V. Putin.

www.nytimes.com

Admiral Beez · Mar 8, 2022

Train full of military tanks spotted rolling through Toronto gives highway drivers a shock

We've operated MBTs in the Baltics before. Perhaps they're on the way to Latvia.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 8, 2022

Admiral Beez said:
Canadian Leo II tanks on the move.

We've operated MBTs in the Baltics before. Perhaps they're on the way to Latvia.

Or they are moving to a training exercise in Canada?

Admiral Beez · Mar 8, 2022

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Or there moving to a training exercise in Canada.

Could be, as the train is westbound and the ports are eastward at Halifax and Montreal. The Armoured School is also to the east at CFB Gagetown but there are other training sites out west. Some good Canadian Leo 2 training footage here.

XBe02Drvr · Mar 8, 2022

Marcel said:
He can always do what we did in Afghanistan last year. Fight there a couple of years and then declare it "not our problem" and leave.

He could emulate Senator George Aiken's recommendation on Vietnam: "Declare victory and withdraw!"
Upon taking Kiyv, Putin could install his puppet government, tell them they're on their own, declare victory and skedadle. Zelehnsky would relocate to Lviv and fight on.

SaparotRob · Mar 8, 2022

Notice Zelehnsky is fighting WITH his people while Putin is hiding from his people?

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