Aviation oddity- Ball-Bartoe Jetwing

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  1. evangilder

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    While looking up something else this morning, I found this article about an interesting design that apparently didn't go beyond the prototype. Sounds like a great concept.

    Oldies and Oddities: Blown Away | History of Flight | Air Space Magazine
     
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    That looks really weird and doesn't seem like the best of ideas. Still an interesting read.
     
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    The STOL capabilities would be really interesting. Although the amount of fuel it ate up was a little much.
     
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    I think with today's engine tech though it would be more efficient, don't you?
     
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    That's really interesting, cool post.
     
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    Possibly, but it flew in 1977. I guess engine technology has changed quite a bit in the 30+ years, but I think it has a lot to do with how much power was needed to create the lift.
     
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    I guess it developed became the Boeing YC14 the Antonov An 72?
     
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    Engine failure could be exciting. And why the qualifier "tailwheel"? Does that mean there was one on tricycle gear?
     
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    These posts came up while reviewing old wisdom. Pete Bartoe was the best engineer I ever worked with -period and by far. His blown wing effort was probable because he wanted to and as a reward for many prior contributions. It was built in a hanger at the Boulder Airport rather as an ambitious homebuilt. And it performed as designed, though of marginal cost/performance.

    Pete was born at Paris Island and, in person, was almost a parody of a DI, actually a bit intimidating. He had a Gypsy Moth for fun and designed aircraft as an avocation. His Skyote design was highly praised. Also for fun, he sailed 32 footer to New Zealand and back. As real work he invented the spin-stabilized satellite and an early deep-diving submersible, the Sea-TV sub. His efforts won prestigious engineering awards in several disciplines.

    Nobody asked, but he’s gone now and came across as a bit light duty in this thread.
     
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    One of those things that had to be tried, it might have gone somewhere....Sort of like the Lanier experimentals, the advantages were overcome by the disadvantages.
     
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