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• May 21, 2004

• #61

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How much success did the Luftwaffe have with these single seat night fighters?

 

• May 22, 2004

• #62

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very much hit and miss. It appears that only the faster versions of the Bf 109G could catch the Mossie LSNF until in 1945 when Kommando Welter used the Me 262A-1a, but even then determining which of the 8 routes the LSNF was to take twoards Berlin and retreating back to England.

 

• May 22, 2004

• #63

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So the RAF had a distinct advantage at night, through most of the war?

 

• May 22, 2004

• #64

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I don't know if I would say they had a distinct advantage. From what I have read the electronic war at night was very much back and forth. For example, Window limited the effectiveness of German radar so the Germans developed radar transmitting on less-effected frequincies and devices to home on H2S and Monica. Then the British started using these devices less. What ultimately made bombers a safer place to live was the invasion pushing the German radar stations and fighter bases further and further back.

 

• May 22, 2004

• #65

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Erich said:

how about FuG 217 on an Fw 190A ? have seen something like this before ?

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Wilde Sau, ja? Anyway, that means "Wild Boar" if I remember correctly.
From what little I have read about it, no, it was not too successful.

 

• May 22, 2004

• #66

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I have more images I will share a bit later. Actually Wilde Sau was successful and needed as the Window and jamming during July of 43 countered any existing German airborne radar units. so a Frei-jagd (free-hunt) was to be the norm and not just for the single engine fighters of JG's 300-302. Twin engine NJG's though arrayed with the aerials used the crewmen's eyes and followed searchlight lanes to attack RAF bombers.

The problem with the Wilde Sau single engine pilots is that the fighters were not a good propositon to land by at night and most of the fatalities involved taking off, landing and engine failures leading to death.........

E ~, more later.............

 

• May 22, 2004

• #67

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oh what the heck..........

Fritz Krause of 1./NJGr 10 and his Neptun FuG 217J-1 equipped Fw 190A-6. Weiße 11.

enjoy guys !

 

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• May 22, 2004

• #68

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Fritz Krause of 1./NJGr 10 and his Neptun FuG 217J-1 equipped Fw 190A-6. Weiße 11.

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well i could have told you that .................

 

• May 22, 2004

• #69

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told me what ? do you know Fritz as he is still alive ? and do you have detailed information on the FuG 217 and 218 radar set ups used by single engine nf's of the Luftwaffe.......... ?

curious to your statement lanc

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• May 22, 2004

• #70

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Erich,

I believe lanc was being 'ironic'.

Kiwimac

 

• May 22, 2004

• #71

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?????????????? ok I am lost ................ must be English humor ?

 

• May 23, 2004

• #72

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yes, it's english humour, you'll learn not to take everything i say seriously soon enough..............

 

• May 23, 2004

• #73

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Don't worry Lanc, none of us take you at all seriously!

Kiwimac

 

• May 23, 2004

• #74

the lancaster kicks ass

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that's ok then!

 

• May 24, 2004

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• #75

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yup, the lanc isnt serious about anything, so dont believe a word of it

 

• May 24, 2004

• #76

plan_D

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That wasn't English humour, that was Lanc humour, there's a distinct difference.

 

• May 25, 2004

• #77

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but i am seriuos about this, the mossie was better than the P-38...............

 

• May 25, 2004

• #78

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but i am seriuos about this, the mossie was better than the P-38...............

 

• May 25, 2004

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NO
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WASNT

 

• May 25, 2004

• #80

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That argument met a dead end long ago, if you want to carry it on take it to the P-38 Vs. Mosquito thread. The P-38 was the better fighter of the two, and the Mosquito was the better bomber. The Spitfire Mk.XIV was the best dogfighter though.