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G1Guy said:Lightning Guy said:Here are what some of the other countries around the world were trying to do while Kelly Johnson was designing the P-38. The first is Holland's Fokker D.XXIII - a novel concept for the times, but poorly refined, under-powered, and using a very poor airfoil. The second is Gloster's F.9/37 which was the absolute contemporary of the P-38. It certainly never had the looks of the Lightning.
LOL
Then you are forgetting about the Fokker G.1, which was allready available in 1936. Even before the FW-189.
You just have to admit that the P-38 was a good copy with the techniques learned from the G.1 that was tested by the RAF and other things learned in the years after that. And still it took until the J version to get a succesfull fighter. The first series had a lot of serious problems, where the Fokker G.1 was known as the secondbest allied fighter in 1940 (after the Spitfire) 8)
Lightning Guy said:Here are what some of the other countries around the world were trying to do while Kelly Johnson was designing the P-38. The first is Holland's Fokker D.XXIII - a novel concept for the times, but poorly refined, under-powered, and using a very poor airfoil. The second is Gloster's F.9/37 which was the absolute contemporary of the P-38. It certainly never had the looks of the Lightning.
Ome_Joop said:Lightning Guy said:Here are what some of the other countries around the world were trying to do while Kelly Johnson was designing the P-38. The first is Holland's Fokker D.XXIII - a novel concept for the times, but poorly refined, under-powered, and using a very poor airfoil. The second is Gloster's F.9/37 which was the absolute contemporary of the P-38. It certainly never had the looks of the Lightning.
Pff the P-38 is (just like the FW-189 Uhu) a copy of the Fokker G1 wich was a real beauty!
http://www.fokkerg-1.nl/
BTW Is this Ugly?
Fieseler Fi-167
The plane has flown one single short flight. On 30th June 1938 test pilot Thomas Coppers took off - and immediately started a turn to land again - with the wind! - Koolhoven ran to the plane, to see what had happened. Both men had a short, furious discussion. We do not know what was said, but one thing is certain - the FK-55 never flew again.
Hang on, that is the Avro Manchester I think you are posting there, isn't it? The RAF big bomber is it? If so tell us the picture source so that if there are any more I can find them. The Avro Manchester even with google and AlltheWeb.com searchengine seems to be one of the hardest aircraft to find pictures of. But that is only the Avro Manchester II. The Avro Manchester I is even harder to find pictures of...
Didn't the Manchester basically look identical to the Lanc, bar the twin engines and shorter wings?