Coronavirus Thread

stona · Mar 14, 2020

I just mixed up a batch of hand sanitiser for some family members.

It's just a mixture of 99% isopropyl alcohol and aloe gel. Many model makers will already have the alcohol, I've got almost a litre of the stuff and the gel is till readily available.

It's a LOT cheaper than the branded stuff, assuming you can still find it.

You need to end up with more than 60% by volume alcohol, the maths isn't difficult and it doesn't need to be precise.

Marcel · Mar 14, 2020

On a positive note, from the university in Rotterdam:

In conclusion, this is the first report on a (human) monoclonal antibody that
neutralizes SARS-CoV-2. 47D11 binds a conserved epitope on the spike receptor
binding domain explaining its ability to cross-neutralize SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2,
using a mechanism that is independent of receptor binding inhibition. This antibody will
be useful for development of antigen detection tests and serological assays targeting
SARS-CoV-2. Neutralizing antibodies can alter the course of infection in the infected
host supporting virus clearance or protect an uninfected host that is exposed to the
virus4. Hence, this antibody offers the potential to prevent and/or treat COVID-19, and
possibly also other future emerging diseases in humans caused by viruses from the
Sarbecovirus subgenus.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.987958v1.full.pdf

fubar57 · Mar 14, 2020

I got this much...."On a positive note, from the university in Rotterdam:"................

Marcel · Mar 14, 2020

fubar57 said:
I got this much...."On a positive note, from the university in Rotterdam:"................

No quote?

michael rauls · Mar 14, 2020

stona said:
I just mixed up a batch of hand sanitiser for some family members.

It's just a mixture of 99% isopropyl alcohol and aloe gel. Many model makers will already have the alcohol, I've got almost a litre of the stuff and the gel is till readily available.

It's a LOT cheaper than the branded stuff, assuming you can still find it.

You need to end up with more than 60% by volume alcohol, the maths isn't difficult and it doesn't need to be precise.

I've read the 60% number sometimes as well but also other " experts" say 70% is the minimum number to kill all the nasties.
I certainly don't know which is correct but might want to err on the 70% side just to be safe.

fubar57 · Mar 14, 2020

I was including the number in the sentences, 102, 103, etc... dang

Marcel · Mar 14, 2020

fubar57 said:
I was including the number in the sentences, 102, 103, etc... dang

Changed te text by copying from another pdf reader. Now the line numbers are gone.
Important part that most people like to read:
"
Hence, this antibody offers the potential to prevent and/or treat COVID-19, and possibly also other future emerging diseases in humans caused by viruses from the
Sarbecovirus subgenus."

fubar57 · Mar 14, 2020

Just say its all good. How long and how much is needed to cure the world...........starting with me

Marcel · Mar 14, 2020

fubar57 said:
Just say its all good. How long and how much is needed to cure the world...........starting with me

You? Don't know if there's any cure

fubar57 · Mar 14, 2020

Airframes · Mar 14, 2020

Just keep sniffing the glue and solvents Geo - that should prevent any virus getting to you !!

FLYBOYJ · Mar 14, 2020

Some observations as of this morning.

It seems the numbers in China and S Korea have stabilized and new cases are going down as testing is increased. I think it's premature to compare the current numbers with other recent pandemics, this outbreak has to stabilize. Outside of China, Italy and Iran have been hit the hardest. Coronavirus Update (Live): 154,218 Cases and 5,798 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

stona · Mar 14, 2020

michael rauls said:
I've read the 60% number sometimes as well but also other " experts" say 70% is the minimum number to kill all the nasties.
I certainly don't know which is correct but might want to err on the 70% side just to be safe.

Yeah, here the advice is greater than 60%, I aimed for about 70%, but it could be slightly more or less. The concoction certainly smells as strong as the branded versions. It also stings like buggery if you get it in a small cut, that's an experiment I inadvertently carried out on myself

fubar57 · Mar 14, 2020

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 14, 2020

FLYBOYJ said:
Some observations as of this morning.

It seems the numbers in China and S Korea have stabilized and new cases are going down as testing is increased. I think it's premature to compare the current numbers with other recent pandemics, this outbreak has to stabilize. Outside of China, Italy and Iran have been hit the hardest. Coronavirus Update (Live): 154,218 Cases and 5,798 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

China got it under control because they shut everything down.

FLYBOYJ · Mar 14, 2020

Some other thoughts - the numbers from the World Health Organization can be misleading as everyone who actually has COVID-19 may not be tested and just get over the virus. Additionally many of the current statistics are going to be relative to those tested vs infected vs recovery vs death vs population. Depending how quickly the outbreak was detected and addressed will obviously show the final results. China, with a population of almost 1.4 billion has had over 81,000 cases, almost 4,000 deaths. Statistically a drop in the bucket unless you're one of those affected.

FLYBOYJ · Mar 14, 2020

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
China got it under control because they shut everything down.

Same with S. Korea

TheMadPenguin · Mar 14, 2020

For China and Iran, I can't believe their numbers for the distortion and dishonesty (impropaganda)
I'd like to see results of a questionnaire showing the relative mortality of COVID19 for those who did vs those who did not test positive for Swine Flu.
P.S. My Church cancelled all meetings "for the duration". Low-level infrequent services may occur.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Mar 14, 2020

TheMadPenguin said:
For China and Iran, I can't believe their numbers for the distortion and dishonesty (impropaganda)
I'd like to see results of a questionnaire showing the relative mortality of COVID19 for those who did vs those who did not test positive for Swine Flu.
P.S. My Church cancelled all meetings "for the duration". Low-level infrequent services may occur.

I don't trust our own numbers in the US, because we were so poorly prepared for this and lacked good testing.

FLYBOYJ · Mar 14, 2020

TheMadPenguin said:
For China and Iran, I can't believe their numbers for the distortion and dishonesty (impropaganda)
I'd like to see results of a questionnaire showing the relative mortality of COVID19 for those who did vs those who did not test positive for Swine Flu.
P.S. My Church cancelled all meetings "for the duration". Low-level infrequent services may occur.

In the aftermath - Iran yes, China no. It's China's best interest to maintain some type of transparency and credibility as it's economic recovery depends on it.

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