Could America have won against the rest of the world?

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The EA would have needed a huge amount of co operation to succeed which I do not see happening.

I do not thnk this would have been a problem - the Allies co-operated well so why not an EA alliance ? If the USSR and Western Allies could co-operate I don't see how Europe and Asia couldn't, the interpreters were there.
 
The British and USA did co operate to a large degree but we didn't with Russia in key technological areas and neither did the Germans, Italians and Japanese. There was some co operation but nothing significant.
 
The Germans, Italians and Japanesea amongst others did co-operate quite successfully in sharing technology in the situation they faced - the Japs experimented with many German designs handed over to them - the copy of the Me-262 being one of them. (The Japs unwisely decided to alter the design however)

But a total alliance to invade another country would also make sure that co-operation in every sense would be taken much more seriously - hence the Western Allied co-operation. The case for the USSR wasn't complicated and needed no advice from the Western Allies really, it was all about driving out the Germans from the Soviet Union.

The reason the USSR and Western Allies didn't fully co-operate also has a little to do with the fact that Stalin was paranoid about the Allies even then and that Germany stood in the way of any major co-operation.
 
This is kind of a long document I found, but it gives a running total of the USN carriers in the inventory. Note the totals beginning in fall of 1940, where the keels were being laid down for the Essex class carriers, and then they begin to be commissioned in middle 1943 at a rate of nearly one per month.

This document lists US Navy carrier force levels throughout WWII, and a timeline of carrier construction. The following specific dates and events are listed:
1. The date the keel of a carrier was laid down
2. The date the classification of a ship was changed to an aircraft carrier
3. The date the name of a ship was changed
4. The date a carrier was commissioned
5. The date a carrier was sunk

1 Sep 39: Status of US Aircraft Carriers
Warships
In Commission: USS Enterprise (CV-6); USS Lexington (CV-2); USS Ranger (CV-4); USS Saratoga (CV-3); USS Yorktown (CV-5)
Building: Wasp (CV-7).
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 1

25 Sep 39: Keel of Hornet (CV-8) laid down.
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 2

25 Apr 40: Wasp (CV-7) commissioned.
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 1

6 Mar 41: SS Mormacmail (MC Hull 47) acquired for conversion to Long Island
(AVG-1)
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 1
AVG 0 1

28 Apr 41: Keel of Essex (CV-9) laid down.
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 2
AVG 0 1

2 Jun 41: Long Island (AVG-1) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 2
AVG 1 0

18 Jun 41: Keel of Copahee (AVG-12, MC Hull 169) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 2
AVG 1 1

15 Jul 41: Keel of Cabot (CV-16) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 3
AVG 1 1

15 Sep 41: Keel of Bunker Hill (CV-17) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 4
AVG 1 1

1 Oct 41: Keel of Bogue (AVG-9, MC Hull 170) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 4
AVG 1 2

4 Oct 41: HMS Charger (BAVG-4) returned to USN
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 4
AVG 1 3

20 Oct 41: Hornet (CV-8) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 3
AVG 1 3

27 Oct 41: Keel of Card (AVG-11, MC Hull 178) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 3
AVG 1 4

27 Nov 41: Keel of Nassau (AVG-16, MC Hull 234) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 3
AVG 1 5

1 Dec 41: Keel of Bon Homme Richard (CV-10) laid down
Keel of Intrepid (CV-11) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 5

19 Dec 41: Keel of Altamaha (AVG-18, MC Hull 235) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 6
 
1 Jan 42: Status
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 6

2 Jan 42: Keel of Core (AVG-13, MC Hull 179) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 7

9 Jan 42: Santee (AO-29) reclassified AVG-29 and begins conversion
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 8

10 Jan 42: Amsterdam (CL-59) redesignated Independence (CV-22) while building
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 9

19 Jan 42: Keels of Barnes (AVG-20, MC Hull 236) and Block Island (AVG-21,
MC Hull 237) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 11

24 Jan 42: HMS Charger (BAVG-4) reclassified Charger (AVG-30)

1 Feb 42: Keel of Core (AVG-13) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 12

14 Feb 42: Sangamon (AO-28) reclassified AVG-26 and Suwanee (AO-33)
reclassified AVG-27 and begin conversion
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 5
AVG 1 14

16 Feb 42: New Haven (CL-76) redesignated Belleau Wood (CV-24) and Princeton (CL-61) redesignated Princeton (CV-23) while building
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 7
AVG 1 14

25 Feb 42: Keel of Breton (AVG-23, MC Hull 239) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 7
AVG 1 15

3 Mar 42: Charger (AVG-30) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 7
AVG 2 14

16 Mar 42: Chenango (AO-31) reclassified AVG-28 and begins conversion
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 7
AVG 2 15

18 Mar 42: Keel of Oriskany (CV-18) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 8
AVG 2 15

27 Mar 42: Following CL's redesignated CV's while building:
Huntington (CL-77) to Cowpens (CV-25)
Dayton (CL-78) to Monterey (CV-26)
Fargo (CL-85) to Crown Point (CV-27)
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
AVG 2 15

15 Apr 42: Keel of Croatan (AVG-25, MC Hull 241) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
AVG 2 16

8 May 42: USS Lexington (CV-2) sunk by aerial torpedoes in Battle of Coral Sea
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 11
AVG 2 16

18 May 42: Keel of Prince William (AVG-31, MC Hull 242) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 11
AVG 2 17

2 Jun 42: Following CL's redesignated CV's while building:
Wilmington (CL-79) to Cabot (CV-28)
Buffalo (CL-99) to Bataan (CV-29)
Newark (CL-100) to Reprisal (CV-30)
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 14
AVG 2 17

7 Jun 42: USS Yorktown (CV-5), damaged by aircraft on 4 Jun during Battle of Midway, torpedoed and sunk by Japanese submarine I-168.
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 14
AVG 2 17

15 Jun 42: Copahee (AVG-12) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 14
AVG 3 16

16 Jun 42: Cabot (CV-16) renamed Lexington while building

3 Aug 42: Keel of Kearsarge (CV-12) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 15
AVG 3 16

20 Aug 42: All AVGs reclassified ACVs
Nassau (ACV-16) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 15
ACV 4 15

24 Aug 42: Santee (ACV-29) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 15
ACV 5 14

25 Aug 42: Sangamon (ACV-26) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 15
ACV 6 13

15 Sep 42: USS Wasp (CV-7) torpedoed and sunk by Japanese submarine I-19 south of Guadalcanal. Altamaha (ACV-18) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 15
ACV 7 12

19 Sep 42: Chenango (ACV-28) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 15
ACV 8 11

24 Sep 42: Suwanee (ACV-27) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 15
ACV 9 10

26 Sep 42: Bogue (ACV-9) commissioned; Bon Homme Richard (CV-10) renamed Yorktown while building; Oriskany (CV-18) renamed Wasp while building
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 15
ACV 10 9

26 Oct 42: USS Hornet (CV-8) sunk after being damaged by aircraft torpedoes
during Battle of Santa Cruz
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 15
ACV 10 9

3 Nov 42: Keel of Ameer (ACV-55, MC Hull 1092) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 15
ACV 10 10

8 Nov 42: Card (ACV-11) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 15
ACV 11 9

13 Nov 42: Crown Point (CV-27) renamed Langley while building

17 Nov 42: Keel of Anguilla Bay (ACV-58, MC Hull 1095) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 15
ACV 11 10

7 Dec 42: Keel of Franklin (CV-13) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 16
ACV 11 10

9 Dec 42: Keel of Liscome Bay (ACV-56, MC Hull 1093) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 16
ACV 11 11

10 Dec 42: Core (ACV-13) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 16
ACV 12 10

12 Dec 42: Keel of Alikula Bay (ACV-57, MC Hull 1094) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 16
ACV 12 11

15 Dec 42: Keel of Bennington (CV-20) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 17
ACV 12 11

28 Dec 42: Keel of Atheling (ACV-59, MC Hull 1096) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 3 17
ACV 12 12

31 Dec 42: Essex (CV-9) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 16
ACV 12 12
 
1 Jan 43: Status
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 16
ACV 12 12

5 Jan 43: Keel of Astrolabe Bay (ACV-60, MC Hull 1097) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 4 16
ACV 12 13

6 Jan 43: Reprisal (CV-30) renamed San Jacinto while building

14 Jan 43: Independence (CV-22) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 15
ACV 12 13

15 Jan 43: Keels of Bucareli Bay (ACV-61, MC Hull 1098) and Shangri La
(CV-38) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 16
ACV 12 14

17 Jan 43: Keel of HMS Begum (ACV-62, MC Hull 1099) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 16
ACV 12 15

22 Jan 43: Kearsarge (CV-12) renamed Hornet while building; HMS Begum (ACV-62) transferred to USN and renamed Natoma Bay

23 Jan 43: Ameer (ACV-55) renamed Alazon Bay on ways; keel of Chapin Bay (ACV-63, MC Hull 1100) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 16
ACV 12 16

26 Jan 43: Keel of Ticonderoga (CV-19) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 17
ACV 12 16

1 Feb 43: Keels of Bon Homme Richard (CV-31), Didrickson Bay (ACV-64, MC Hull 1101) and Hancock (CV-14) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 19
ACV 12 17

6 Feb 43: Keel of Dolomi Bay (ACV-65, MC Hull 1102) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 19
ACV 12 18

11 Feb 43: Keel of Elbour Bay (ACV-66, MC Hull 1103) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 5 19
ACV 12 19

17 Feb 43: Lexington (CV-16) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 18
ACV 12 19

20 Feb 43: Barnes (ACV-20) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 6 18
ACV 13 18

25 Feb 43: Princeton (CV-23) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 17
ACV 13 18

8 Mar 43: Block Island (ACV-21) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 17
ACV 14 17

15 Mar 43: Keels of Antietam (CV-36) and Lake Champlain (CV-39) laid
down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 19
ACV 14 17

31 Mar 43: Belleau Wood (CV-24) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 18
ACV 14 17

3 Apr 43: Following ACV's renamed on ways:
Alazon Bay (ACV-55) to Casablanca
Alikula Bay (ACV-57) to Coral Sea
Anguilla Bay (ACV-58) to Corregidor
Astrolabe Bay (ACV-60) to Guadalcanal
Atheling (ACV-59) to Mission Bay
Bucareli Bay (ACV-61) to Manila Bay
Chapin Bay (ACV-63) to Midway
Didrickson Bay (ACV-64) to Tripoli
Dolomi Bay (ACV-65) to Wake Island
Elbour Bay (ACV-66) to White Plains
9 Apr 43: Prince William (ACV-31) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 18
ACV 15 16

12 Apr 43: Breton (ACV-23) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 18
ACV 16 15

15 Apr 43: Yorktown (CV-10) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 17
ACV 16 15

19 Apr 43: Keel of Solomons (ACV-67, MC Hull 1104) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 17
ACV 16 16

26 Apr 43: Keel of Kalanin Bay (ACV-68, MC Hull 1105) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 17
ACV 16 17

28 Apr 43: Croatan (ACV-25) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 17
ACV 17 16

1 May 43: Hancock (CV-14) renamed Ticonderoga and Ticonderoga (CV-19) renamed Hancock while building
10 May 43: Keel of Randolph (CV-15) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 18
ACV 17 16

11 May 43: Keel of Kasaan Bay (ACV-69, MC Hull 1106) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 18
ACV 17 17

18 May 43: Keel of Fanshaw Bay (ACV-70, MC Hull 1107) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 9 18
ACV 17 18

25 May 43: Bunker Hill (CV-17) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 10 17
ACV 17 18

28 May 43: Cowpens (CV-25) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 11 16
ACV 17 18

31 May 43: Keel of Kitkun Bay (ACV-71, MC Hull 1108) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 11 16
ACV 17 19

7 Jun 43: Keel of Fortezela Bay (ACV-72, MC Hull 1109) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 11 16
ACV 17 20

17 Jun 43: Monterey (CV-26) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 12 15
ACV 17 20

8 Jul 43: Casablanca (ACV-55) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 12 15
ACV 18 19

10 Jul 43: Keel of Gambier Bay (ACV-73, MC Hull 1110) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 12 15
ACV 18 20

15 Jul 43: All ACV's reclassified CVE
Following CV's reclassified CVL's:
USS Independence (CV-22) to CVL-22
USS Princeton (CV-23) to CVL-23
USS Belleau Wood (CV-24) to CVL-24
USS Cowpens (CV-25) to CVL-25
USS Monterey (CV-26) to CVL-26
Langley (CV-27) to CVL-27
Cabot (CV-28) to CVL-28
Bataan (CV-29) to CVL-29
San Jacinto (CV-30) to CVL-30
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
CVL 5 4
CVE 18 20

20 Jul 43: Keel of Nehenta Bay (CVE-74, MC Hull 1111) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
CVL 5 4
CVE 18 21

24 Jul 43: Cabot (CVL-28) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
CVL 6 3
CVE 18 21

7 Aug 43: Liscome Bay (CVE-56) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 7 11
CVL 6 3
CVE 19 20

16 Aug 43: Intrepid (CV-11) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 10
CVL 6 3
CVE 19 20

17 Aug 43: Keel of Hoggatt Bay (CVE-75, MC Hull 1112) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 10
CVL 6 3
CVE 19 21

27 Aug 43: Coral Sea (CVE-57) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 10
CVL 6 3
CVE 20 20

31 Aug 43: Corregidor (CVE-58) and Langley (CVL-27) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 10
CVL 7 2
CVE 21 19

2 Sep 43: Keel of Kadashan Bay (CVE-76, MC Hull 1113) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 10
CVL 7 2
CVE 21 20

13 Sep 43: Keel of Boxer (CV-21) laid down; Mission Bay (CVE-59)
commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 22 19

14 Sep 43: Keel of Valley Forge (CV-37) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 22 19

15 Sep 43: Keel of Kanalku Bay (CVE-77, MC Hull 1114) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 22 20

23 Sep 43: Keel of St Joseph Bay (CVE-105) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 22 21

25 Sep 43: Guadalcanal (CVE-60) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 23 20

27 Sep 43: Keel of Kaita Bay, CVE-78, MC Hull 1115) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 23 21

5 Oct 43: Manila Bay (CVE-61) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 24 20

6 Oct 43: Keel of Ommaney Bay (CVE-79, MC Hull 1116) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 24 21

14 Oct 43: Natoma Bay (CVE-62) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 25 20

15 Oct 43: Keel of Petrof Bay (CVE-80, MC Hull 1117) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 25 21

23 Oct 43: Midway (CVE-63) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 26 20

24 Oct 43: Keel of Rudyerd Bay (CVE-81, MC Hull 1118) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 26 21

25 Oct 43: Keel of Sunset Bay (CVE-106) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 26 22

27 Oct 43: Keel of Midway (CVB-41) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 26 22

31 Oct 43: Tripoli (CVE-64) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 27 21

1 Nov 43: Keel of Saginaw Bay (CVE-82, MC Hull 1119) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 27 22

7 Nov 43: Wake Island (CVE-65) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 28 21

8 Nov 43: Keel of Sargent Bay (CVE-83, MC Hull 1120) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 28 22

15 Nov 43: Keel of Shamrock Bay (CVE-84, MC Hull 1121) laid down;
White Plains (CVE-66) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 29 22

17 Nov 43: Bataan (CVL-29) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 8 1
CVE 30 21

21 Nov 43: Solomons (CVE-67) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 31 20

22 Nov 43: Keel of Shipley Bay (CVE-85, MC Hull 1122) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 31 21

21 Nov 43: Solomons (CVE-67) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 32 20

24 Nov 43: USS Liscome Bay (CVE-56) torpedoed and sunk by I-175 off Gilbert
Islands; Wasp (CV-18, ex Oriskany) commissioned.
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 31 20

27 Nov 43: Kalanin Bay (CVE-68) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 32 19

28 Nov 43: Keel of Sitkoh Bay (CVE-86, MC Hull 1123) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 8 12
CVL 7 2
CVE 32 20

29 Nov 43: Hornet (CV-12) commissioned; keel of St Andrews Bay (CVE-107) laid
down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 1
CV 9 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 32 21

1 Dec 43: Keel of Coral Sea (CVB-42) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 32 21

4 Dec 43: Kasaan Bay (CVE-69) commissioned; keel of Steamer Bay (CVE-87, MC
Hull 1124) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 33 21

9 Dec 43: Fanshaw Bay (CVE-70) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 34 20

11 Dec 43: Keel of Cape Esperance (CVE-88, MC Hull 1125) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 7 2
CVE 34 21

15 Dec 43: Kitkun Bay (CVE-71) and San Jacinto (CVL-30) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 35 20

16 Dec 43: Keels of Takansis Bay (CVE-89, MC Hull 1126) and Vermillion Bay
(CVE-108) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 8 1
CVE 35 22

21 Dec 43: Tulagi (CVE-72) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 8 1
CVE 36 21

22 Dec 43: Keel of Thetis Bay (CVE-90, MC Hull 1127) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 8 1
CVE 36 22

28 Dec 43: Gambier Bay (CVE-73) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 8 1
CVE 37 21

29 Dec 43: Keel of Makassar Strait (CVE-91, MC Hull 1128) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 8 1
CVE 37 22
 
1 Jan 44: Status
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 37 22

3 Jan 44: Nehenta Bay (CVE-74) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 38 21

5 Jan 44: Keel of Windham Bay (CVE-92, MC Hull 1129) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 38 22

10 Jan 44: Keel of Willapa Bay (CVE-109) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 38 23

11 Jan 44: Hoggatt Bay (CVE-75) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 39 22

12 Jan 44: Keel of Makin Island (CVE-93, MC Hull 1130) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 39 23

18 Jan 44: Kadashan Bay (CVE-76) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 40 22

19 Jan 44: Keel of Lunga Point (CVE-94, MC Hull 1131) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 40 23

26 Jan 44: Marcus Island (CVE-77) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 9 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 41 22

31 Jan 44: Franklin (CV-13) commissioned; keel of Alikula Bay (CVE-95, MC Hull 1132) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 41 23

3 Feb 44: Savo Island (CVE-78) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 42 22

4 Feb 44: Keel of Salamaua (CVE-96, MC Hull 1133) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 42 23

7 Feb 44: Keel of Salerno Bay (CVE-110) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 42 24

11 Feb 44: Ommaney Bay (CVE-79) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 43 23

12 Feb 44: Keel of Astrolabe Bay (CVE-97, MC Hull 1134) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 43 24

18 Feb 44: Petrof Bay (CVE-80) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 44 23

19 Feb 44: Keel of Bucareli Bay (CVE-98, MC Hull 1135) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 10
CVL 9 0
CVE 44 24

21 Feb 44: Keel of Crown Point (CV-32) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 44 24

25 Feb 44: Rudyerd Bay (CVE-81) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 45 23

26 Feb 44: Keel of Chapin Bay (CVE-99, MC Hull 1136) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 11
CVL 9 0
CVE 45 24

1 Mar 44: Keels of Kearsarge (CV-33) and Tarawa (CV-40) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 45 24

2 Mar 44: Saginaw Bay (CVE-82) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 46 23

3 Mar 44: Keel of Didrickson Bay (CVE-100, MC Hull 1137) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 46 24

7 Mar 44: Keel of Totem Bay (CVE-111) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 46 25

9 Mar 44: Sargent Bay (CVE-83) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 47 24

10 Mar 44: Keel of Dolomi Bay (CVE-101, MC Hull 1138) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 47 25

15 Mar 44: Shamrock Bay (CVE-84) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 48 24

16 Mar 44: Keel of Attu (CVE-102, MC Hull 1139) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 48 25

21 Mar 44: Shipley Bay (CVE-85) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 49 24

22 Mar 44: Keel of Alava Bay (CVE-103, MC Hull 1140) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 49 25

28 Mar 44: Sitkoh Bay (CVE-86) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 50 24

29 Mar 44: Keel of Munda (CVE-104, MC Hull 1141) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 50 25

1 Apr 44: Keel of Frosty Bay (CVE-112) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 50 26

4 Apr 44: Steamer Bay (CVE-87) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 51 25

9 Apr 44: Cape Esperance (CVE-88) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 10 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 52 24

15 Apr 44: Hancock (CV-19) and Takansis Bay (CVE-89) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 11 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 53 23

21 Apr 44: Thetis Bay (CVE-90) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 11 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 54 22

27 Apr 44: Makassar Strait (CVE-91) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 11 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 55 21

1 May 44: Keel of Oriskany (CV-34) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 11 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 55 21

3 May 44: Windham Bay (CVE-92) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 11 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 56 20

8 May 44: Ticondroga (CV-14) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 56 20

9 May 44: Makin Island (CVE-93) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 57 19

12 May 44: Keel of Hobart Bay (CVE-113) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 57 20

14 May 44: Lunga Point (CVE-94) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 58 19

20 May 44: Bismarck Sea (CVE-95) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 59 18

26 May 44: Salamaua (CVE-96) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 60 17

29 May 44: USS Block Island (CVE-21) torpedoed and sunk by U-549 northwest of Canary Islands
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 59 17

30 May 44: Astrolabe Bay (CVE-97) renamed Hollandia before commissioning

1 Jun 44: Hollandia (CVE-97) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 60 16

7 Jun 44: Kwajalein (CVE-98) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 61 15

13 Jun 44: Admiralty Islands (CVE-99) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 62 14

15 Jun 44: Keel of Rendova (CVE-114) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 62 15

18 Jun 44: Bougainville (CVE-100) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 63 14

24 Jun 44: Matanikau (CVE-101) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 64 13

30 Jun 44: Attu (CVE-102) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 12
CVL 9 0
CVE 65 12

1 Jul 44: Keel of Reprisal (CV-35) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 65 12

5 Jul 44: Sunset Bay (CVE-106) renamed Block Island while on ways

6 Jul 44: Roi (CVE-103) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 66 11

8 Jul 44: Munda (CVE-104) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 2
CV 12 13
CVL 9 0
CVE 67 10

10 Jul 44: Keels of Coral Sea (CVB-43) and Saipan (CVL-48) laid down; St Joseph Bay (CVE-105) renamed Commencement Bay while on ways
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 12 13
CVL 9 1
CVE 67 10

25 Jul 44: Keel of Bairoko (CVE-115) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 12 13
CVL 9 1
CVE 67 11

6 Aug 44: Bennington (CV-20) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 13 12
CVL 9 1
CVE 67 11

18 Aug 44: Keel of Badoeng Strait (CVE-116) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 13 12
CVL 9 1
CVE 67 12

19 Aug 44: Keel of Wright (CV-47) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 13 13
CVL 9 1
CVE 67 12

21 Aug 44: Keel of Wright (CVL-49) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 13 13
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 12

7 Sep 44: Keel of Valley Forge (CV-45) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 13 14
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 12

15 Sep 44: USS Coral Sea (CVE-57) renamed Anzio; Shangri La (CV-38) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 14 13
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 12

20 Sep 44: Keel of Saidor (CVE-117) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 14 13
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 13

9 Oct 44: Randolph (CV-15) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 15 12
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 13

10 Oct 44: USS Midway (CVE-63) renamed St Lo

23 Oct 44: Keel of Sicily (CVE-118) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 15 12
CVL 9 2
CVE 67 14

24 Oct 44: USS Princeton (CVL-23) sunk after being damaged by aircraft bombs east of Luzon during the Battle of Leyte Gulf
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 15 12
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 14

25 Oct 44: Following ships lost off Samar, Philippine Is during the Battle of Leyte Gulf:
USS Gambier Bay (CVE-73) by gunfire
USS St Lo (CVE-63) by aircraft
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 15 12
CVL 8 2
CVE 65 14

21 Nov 44: Valley Forge (CV-37) renamed Princeton while building

26 Nov 44: Bon Homme Richard (CV-31) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 65 14

27 Nov 44: Commencement Bay (CVE-105) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 13

4 Dec 44: Keel of Point Cruz (CVE-119) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 14

30 Dec 44: Block Island (CVE-106) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 13
 
1 Jan 45: Status
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 13

2 Jan 45: Keel of Mindoro (CVE-120) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 14

4 Jan 45: USS Ommaney Bay (CVE-79) sunk by kamikaze south of Mindoro, Philippine Islands
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 16 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 14

28 Jan 45: Antietam (CV-36) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 14

29 Jan 45: Keels of Iwo Jima (CV-46) and Rabaul (CVE-121) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 15

5 Feb 45: Gilbert Islands (CVE-107) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 14

12 Feb 45: Wright (CV-47) renamed Philippine Sea while building

19 Feb 45: Keel of Palau (CVE-122) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 15

21 Feb 45: USS Bismarck Sea (CVE-95) sunk by kamikaze off Iwo Jima
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 66 15

5 Mar 45: Cape Gloucester (CVE-109) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 14

20 Mar 45: Keel of Tinian (CVE-123) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 15

2 Apr 45: Keel of Bastogne (CVE-124) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 67 16

9 Apr 45: Vella Gulf (CVE-111) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 17 11
CVL 8 2
CVE 68 15

16 Apr 45: Boxer (CV-21) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 68 15

20 Apr 45: Keel of Eniwetok (CVE-125) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 68 16

1 May 45: Keel of Lingayen (CVE-126) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 68 17

8 May 45: Coral Sea (CVB-42) renamed Franklin D Roosevelt and Crown Point (CV-32) renamed Leyte while building

12 May 45: Kula Gulf (CVE-108) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 69 16

14 May 45: Siboney (CVE-112) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 70 15

19 May 45: Salerno Bay (CVE-110) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 71 14

22 May 45: Keel of Okinawa (CVE-127) laid down
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 18 10
CVL 8 2
CVE 71 15

3 Jun 45: Lake Champlain (CV-39) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 19 9
CVL 8 2
CVE 71 15

18 Jun 45: Puget Sound (CVE-113) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 19 9
CVL 8 2
CVE 72 14

16 Jul 45: Bairoko (CVE-115) commissioned
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 19 9
CVL 8 2
CVE 73 13

12 Aug 45: Construction of following ships canceled:
Bastogne (CVE-124)
Eniwetok (CVE-125)
Iwo Jima (CV-46)
Lingayen (CVE-126)
Okinawa (CVE-127)
Reprisal (CV-35)
CLASS COMM BUILD
CVB 0 3
CV 19 7
CVL 8 2
CVE 73 9
 
The Germans, Italians and Japanesea amongst others did co-operate quite successfully in sharing technology in the situation they faced - the Japs experimented with many German designs handed over to them - the copy of the Me-262 being one of them. (The Japs unwisely decided to alter the design however)

But a total alliance to invade another country would also make sure that co-operation in every sense would be taken much more seriously - hence the Western Allied co-operation. The case for the USSR wasn't complicated and needed no advice from the Western Allies really, it was all about driving out the Germans from the Soviet Union.

The reason the USSR and Western Allies didn't fully co-operate also has a little to do with the fact that Stalin was paranoid about the Allies even then and that Germany stood in the way of any major co-operation.

I must disagree in your statement that the Germans, Japenese and Italians co operated to a large degree on technical issues.
Japans and Italy desperately needed night fighters and the only ones given were some Do217 nightfighters to the Italians the Japanese didn't get any or any airborne radars.
The Italians and Japanese didn't get any modern radars or designs for radars from the Germans.

Germany didn't get any naval fighter/torpedo bomber designs from the Japanese when they had an urgent requirement, neither did the Italians for the Aquilla.

No details of modern submarine design were passed from the Germans to the Japanese whose subs were obsolesant compared to the Germans, neither did the Japanese get any anti submarine sonar from the Germans, another deserate need of theirs.

The Japanese jet looked like the Me262 but was fundamentally different in a number of ways and the engines were much less powerful.

If I say tanks will you agree that the Japanese and Italians could have learnt a lot from the Germans? An obsolete German Mk III with the 50L60 would be a war winner for the Japanese let alone the design of the panzerfaust in the jungle where it was comparatively easy to get close to an attacking tank.

No co operation was minimal at best and far less than both sides needed.
 
I was looking at my aircraft carrier list, and it seems that after Pearl Harbor, the construction times for the Essex class carriers were cut to 18 months.

Just imagine if after the ships authorized under naval construction acts in the summer of 1940 were put under an "emergency" build schedule.

By early 1942, the USN was going to get a fleet carrier every month!

By summer 1943, the earliest possible date the EA could conceivablylaunch an offensive or raid..... the USN was going to have 20 plus fleet carriers available, exclusive of the smaller "light" carriers (capable of sailing with the fleet) and smaller escort carriers to hunt down the U-Boats.
 
Actually, he isn't. Well, not by much. 20 hulls in the water may be the total number but that is not outfitted and ready to fight. Figure that number would be closer to 12-15. And of those, maybe 10 would be out at sea at any given time. Takes about 9 months to get a ship ready to go to war after it is commisioned. That includes shakedowns, yardwork, run-up, ect. That's doable. There is no need to produce Liberty or Victory ships so all that capacity goes into warships and their fleet train. Actually, Syscom's idea is very doable.

What I find interesting in nobody sees the US as going to war against others, only fighting a defensive war. I agree with the premiss, I do not think the US would win a war that this thread denotes. But I think it could get a stalemate if:

-It can keep Canada Neutral (very difficult).
-It can hold the Panama Canal (if not, it will have to be destroyed).
-It can destroy or seriously damage the Japanese Fleet.

If it can get those three things in it's favor, odds are very good for a stalemate followed by explotation via diplomatic means to fracture what would be a very fragile coalition. If any of the above three things are not possible, the odds slip as each one fails. If all three don't happen (and the Panama Canal is captured in working order), I could see a long and bloody war in which the US has less chance of winning. Something akin to Germany in the First World War would be similar.
 
.... Takes about 9 months to get a ship ready to go to war after it is commisioned. ....

Actually 4 - 6 months, which could be cut down even more if required in an utter emergency.


What I find interesting in nobody sees the US as going to war against others, only fighting a defensive war. I agree with the premiss, I do not think the US would win a war that this thread denotes. But I think it could get a stalemate if:

-It can keep Canada Neutral (very difficult).

Canada would not join an alliance that included Nazi Germany, Stalins Russia and Tojo's Japan. Canada would have two choices, join with the US or let the US operate with impunity from its territory.

-It can hold the Panama Canal (if not, it will have to be destroyed).

The Panama canal could possibly be damaged by torpedo carrying submarine aircraft, but not knocked out of the war for long.

-It can destroy or seriously damage the Japanese Fleet.

As events finally unfolded in the war in the pacific..... Japanese ships were found to be sub-par when it came to damage control. And their AAA was pathetic.
 
I think Canada is a toss up. Most Canadians now are closer to Americans in outlook (IMHO) than they are to Europeans. But back in the 40's? I don't honestly know. Back then, Canada had a Governor General that was appointed by the Queen (last one, I think, left in 1952). So she had a lot of strong ties to the "Old Country". On the other hand, Canada declared war on Japan before the United States did ( on the evening of Dec 7th, the group that ran the country-all Canadians I think- got together and agreed to declare war on Japan, beating the US to the punch by something like 17 hours). So it is tough call which way Canada would go.

The Panama Canal gave a ton of strategic advantages to whomever held it. If the US holds it, she can transfer ships back and forth between Oceans and develop local superiority quickly in strategic terms. If the Brits or the Japanese hold it, same thing in reverse and, it has the advantage of cutting the mainland US off from strategic materials from South America. Otherwise, US reinforcements would have to sail around South America. With no bases and few friends, it is a very bad option. The US really needs to hold the Canal.

The US Fleet has to destroy or damage the Japanese fleet because it has a much better carrier fleet than the British. Only the Japanese, US and British could project power. You need carriers to do that. All the other militaries of the world were designed to fight local wars. The Japanese Carrier Fleet was probably the best in the world in 1940-1942. If the US can destroy or damage the Japanese carrier fleet, it takes the major strike force against the West Coast out of the picture and would force the only other Carrier Force out there (the British) to split off some of it's assets to counter US forces going wherever they wanted to in the Pacific. However, having said that, there is a good chance the Brits would ignore the Pacific and concentrate on the Atlantic front. Out of sight, out of mind.

But only the British (through Sunderland Flying Boats and later 4 engined bombers), the Japanese (through the Zero and Betty Bombers) and US (through the B17 and B24) could bomb effectively at long range. While the Germans had aircraft like the Condor and the Russians the TB-4, they were not major players in a global fight.

It really would've come down to the Carriers, and by direct association, their aircraft.
 
Sys, agree with you on the AAA/Damage Control point. Add to that ASW, Supply, Medical, Engineering, Support and pretty much everything else that a military force needs to stay and fight in the face of a determined enemy. Good planes, good ships, good soliders, lousy support.
 
Sys, agree with you on the AAA/Damage Control point. Add to that ASW, Supply, Medical, Engineering, Support and pretty much everything else that a military force needs to stay and fight in the face of a determined enemy. Good planes, good ships, good soliders, lousy support.

The Germans didnt put a premium on logistics either.
 
I read a book some time ago about Operation Barbarossa. In it, the author points out that Hitler and his staff planned specifically with so many guns here, or tanks there. Had his staff work been competently handled, he would've been inundated with memos about oil coagulation in sub zero temperatures and tire wear rates, ect. In short, far too much work on the battle and not enough on what really wins the battle- logistics.
 
They could have cooperated alot better then you think Glider and in many different fields?

Could have, certainly, would have, not on the evidence of what happened.

However, had they done so, then the USA would have been in trouble
 

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