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There were atrocities committed by all sides during WW2 - that's a given, but please, done even try to compare US "souvenir" hunting to what Germany, Japan and the Soviet Union did during WW2 and into the post war years.So your saying the violence against African Americans in the USA was not as bad as what happened in China(?)... your not African American are you? Violence and brutality of that nature is unacceptable on any scale. Their are some estimates that claim that between 5000 and 8000 American Blacks where lynched in America between the years of 1880 and the 1930's (the years that some claim a rise in "Human Rights"), most of these where in the "south" but not all. I'm not sure why its so important to separate the notion of the "south" from the rest of the USA, but I guess it helps Americans feel better about the truth.
FYI; their are people in Japan who claim the violence in China was unacceptable at the time (people who where alive in the 1930's)...
Rape and pillage happened in WW1 and in European WW2...and easy example would be the Russians against Germany. But Americans where known for looting Europe of "souvenirs"...
There were atrocities committed by all sides during WW2 - that's a given, but please, done even try to compare US "souvenir" hunting to what Germany, Japan and the Soviet Union did during WW2 and into the post war years.
Well the fact is while we did have a few soldiers behaving badly, there were also some identified and eventually prosecuted for their crimes. Not that it's made right but as we know during the war you had wide scale plunder sanctioned by the axis powers. After the war the Soviet Union did the same in Eastern Europe and it was done on a scale that would make anything done by the west look like "child's play."I was not making a judgment...just stating fact.
Well the fact is while we did have a few soldiers behaving badly, there were also some identified and eventually prosecuted for their crimes. Not that it's made right but as we know during the war you had wide scale plunder sanctioned by the axis powers. After the war the Soviet Union did the same in Eastern Europe and it was done on a scale that would make anything done by the west look like "child's play."
I posted:America pretty much lost its appetite for war and such after WW1... it wasn't so much a concern for human rights (or equal rights) as it was a distaste for warfare and the things that happen during "all out war". Just look at the things that where happening and accepted in the USA (lynchings and burnings) in the 1930's.
I'm trying to figure out how Black Americans work into the Hiroshima discussion, but I'll respond anyway.So your saying the violence against African Americans in the USA was not as bad as what happened in China(?) Read my reply above, you may have missed it the first time... your not African American are you? No, I am an American, period. Violence and brutality of that nature is unacceptable on any scale. Their are some estimates that claim that between 5000 and 8000 American Blacks where lynched in America between the years of 1880 and the 1930's (the years that some claim a rise in "Human Rights"), most of these where in the "south" but not all. I can assure you that more unfortunate blacks and thier white sympathizers (oh yeah, friends of blacks mixed couples weren't immune) were lynched and worse, in places in the south like Alabama or Georgia, for example, than say, in Oregon or Wyoming. I'm not sure why its so important to separate the notion of the "south" from the rest of the USA, but I guess it helps Americans feel better about the truth.
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That was far from being accepted. It was an issue that permeated throughout the south for the most part, and while it was a despicable part of America's past, it wasn't even close to the scale of the slaughter on the European battlefields.
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I'm trying to figure out how Black Americans work into the Hiroshima discussion, but I'll respond anyway.
How is there any "feeling better" about that truth? The fact that an estimated 5 to 8 thousand Americans were killed over the course of 50 years by fellow Americans is, like I said before, despicable and inexcusable. What I was getting at in my previous response, was that in Europe, people had just experianced a war who's battles saw slaughters of up to 18,800 Allied soldiers alone...in one single day. Those were just the British losses during the opening battle of the Somme, 1 July 1916. The Somme would go on to be a meat grinder consuming a staggering amount of men during it's course. It was only one of many bitter battles, as you may or may not know.
So perhaps the domestic issue of injustices against Black Americans back then is similiar to what we see in today's society and it's "great public outcry" against the former administration and it's "war for oil" instead of trying to do something about the 16,204 Americans that were murdered last year.
Really? Must be a copyright "thing". The video was actually very well done. Not necessarily historic, but certainly graphically and emotionally compelling. As an American, I took no offense. Certainly the horrors of war are painted in many different mediums.
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Really? Must be a copyright "thing". The video was actually very well done. Not necessarily historic, but certainly graphically and emotionally compelling. As an American, I took no offense. Certainly the horrors of war are painted in many different mediums.