Doras Galoras - Unofficial GB

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I did a lot of work over the last few days on the complicated paint scheme on the underside of the wings and here is a sequence of pictured showing it.
1. Masking for the R:M 76
2. RLM 76
3. Masking for the RLM 63
4. RLM 63
5. Masking for the NMF
6. Old silver sprayed
7. Finished wings after bright silver

 
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i will review your comments Dan.. Maybe a grey out there on the wing....I'm not so sure....

Scratching Brown 18 from my short list...and then there were 3 choices.....leaning toward Black 10 or White 12....
 
@Wayne - please do For me, thats one of the really interesting Fw 190D-ism's; the different interpretations of the camo. You just need to look at Japo vs EE; some a/c they totally agree on, others could not be more different - and then you interject your own thoughts and theories on top of that and you can come up with some interesting stuff! Like I have my 601088 'Black <1+~' in RLM74/75/76 (based upon the trace evidence of a WHITE fuselage Balkenkruez), but because its a 'repaired' a/c, all bets are off regarding coinsistency. The 1970's pre-restoration photo's seem to show some RLM83 on the front of it and the wing I still beleive was replaced at some point, with an F-series wing.

Regardless, the model is sitting there, painted in what I think was its original RLM74/75/76 scheme, waiting for me to decide how to go about the 'repair' over spray, which is primarily info about the wing upper surfaces. Beliveing they're F-series wings (they have the Radial Engine Exhaust fairing, for example). RLM 74/75 uppers is fine, BUT if they oversprayed part of the fuselage (as seems the case) with RLM83, what did they do with the wings? The period photos are a tough to evaluate!

But yeah, re: 2200?? "Red 4", I can see the 'light colour' on the wing panel. Leaving it bare metal doesnt make much sense, RLM82 isnt light enough, so the only colour that makes sense is one of either RLM76/77 (as seen in some D-9 wing camo's), RLM84* (the mysterious 'Sky Green' colour) or the Neutral Grey colour that pops up around the end of the war (which could well be bad mixing of RLM76)... I guess an alternative is RLM02?


Dan
 
Love this discussion. I can only add my opinion that there's definitely a light patch of colour evident on the outer wing of Red 4.

Glenn, great work on that wing underside!

Here's my Black 6 as it looks today with the cockpit and engine plug glued to the port fuselage half. This took some serious checking of fit, trimming and clamping to get to this point. Anyone working with the Eduard kits needs to be careful here as there are lots of parts that need to line up correctly. To get the gun deck to line up flush with the top of the cut out for the cowl, I had to trim away some of the thickness of the roof plate over the pedals as it sat too high on the lower instrument panel. Even after this was done, there was a bit of twist between the pit and the plug that was fixed with lots of clamping and glue in strategic spots. Hopefully all will be good when I mate the other half!


 
Nice work Andy and Glenn. I went with open flaps almost time for the tail section i still need to paint seat cushion.





 
Well, since I seem to be 'officially' part of this now, I thought I may as well illustrate the plan and demonstrate the progress. Firsly, the goal - the Focke-Wulf/Roland/Daimler Benz Fw 190D-15 'prototype' series. In March 1945, fifteen GFW built Fw 190D-9 were released directly to Daimler-Benz for conversion; the only photographically documented, completed (though destroyed by the retreating Germans) a/c know was 601286. The photographic evidence suggest the a/c most likely used common treibwerk components and accessories to the Ta 152C, so that logic generates the following profile:



Alas, while in the real world attaching a Ta 152C engine and treibwerk to the front of a Fw 190D wasnt too hard, in 1:48 its a totally different story; you'd think the differences wouldn't be that great. In hindsignt, if I were to attempt this again, I wouldn't be using the nose off a Ta 152C; I'd be using a D-11 fuselage and chopping it up slightly. But that's be side the point, because the path has already been chosen!

So, since joining this little challenge, the project has changed slightly; I've opened up the whell wells up, built a firewall, engine and modified some aftermarket exhausts, etc:


Now while its rather hard to make the contours out ATM (due to the sectioning and re-shaping, filling and fixing - nothing is in the same colour, which distorts how things appear), this what the thing looks like with the nose taped on:




I'm waiting to hit the nose with a primer-filler (when the cylon raider is primed), then I'll finish boxing in the exhasts, install the engine and attach the fuselage... Then the real fun starts - smoothing it all over, replacing the fuselage braces, etc...


Dan
 
Yeah, I was thinking the same Paul. This format of everyone posting in the same thread can have its drawbacks but I think it works OK.
 
I don't know it you noticed but I started putting "Blue 12" in the title box to help identify it when making an update. Things were beginning to get a little confusing. Maybe it would help if everyone did it when they posted an update.
 
nice work everyone !

Andy you are sooooo correct about the fitting of the internals on that Dora kit, lots of care needs to be taken !

great idea Glenn, will do just that when i start my Dora
 
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Good work everyone

Thanks for the discussion on paint schemes - I've removed the metal and taken it back to a grey colour for now whilst I complete the weathering and panel lines.

I agree about the post title, should add a degree of organisation to proceedings

Mind you, if Red 4 provokes this kind of analysis I dread to think where I'll end up with Yellow 10
 
some how i missed you were doing yellow 10, i have the eagle editions yellow 10 book so if there is anything in it that would help just shout
 
Cheers Karl - any opinions welcome really.

The only source material I have on the Dora is what comes with the kit.

I'd planned to do the Gruenherz box so somewhat neglected the Dora - this thread caught me with my pants down somewhat
 
Well after that rarest of things these days, an actual ebay bargain, I have a Eduard D11 D13 dual pack on its way, so looks like I am in .. and at the more imaginative end of the camo schemes at that .

I will do some reading while I await delivery and put the formal kick off post up when I have settled on a subject .
 

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