Glad you found an out Mike as Karl's are, as you say, perfect. My selection was too much of a mish-mash but you're still welcom to any you want as I don't see using these any time soon (haven't in 20 years so why now!).
Crimea, in my experience the day after i've thrown something out is the day that I need it desperately so you can never tell. My sincere thanks. I have a few more old kits but this will be my last Kitech. Going to stick to name brands from now on
Wurger, Just to show all of you the massive amount of artistic talent I possess, I took Wurger's advice, swiped some clay from the g-kids and after a hour or so.......ta-da...
A very nicely done ball and (hopefully not too riskay) TWO snakes doing the nasty!!!