How Many Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines.......

[ccheese]

Just as a point of comparison...

In June, 1971 as an E-1 recruit in basic, I was getting 134.50 a month.

Upon graduation from AIT (October '71) as an E-3....175.00 a month.

TO

Hey TO: How much were cigarettes at the PX ?? Sea stores were $1.10
a carton !!

Anybody who wants to check, go here: http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/2006militarypaytables/2007MilitaryPayCharts-1.pdf

Charles

 

[B-17engineer]

Talking about retirement my dad has been a cop for 22 years he is going to work till 25 years so he gets a pension.............I think Police men is a family thing i have a lot of generations of cops..........going back to my Great Great Grandfather

 

[ToughOmbre]

Hey TO: How much were cigarettes at the PX ?? Sea stores were $1.10
a carton !!

Got me beat Charles. Pack of smokes were $.24, with matches $.25 (Fort Dix PX).

TO

 

[Parmigiano]

15 months in Italian Army, 6 of training and 9 as junior lieutenant (??? the ones with one star)

Brigata Alpina Tridentina, GrAMon Vicenza (Alpin brigade, mountain artillery
group 'Vicenza'), the ones with the eagle feather on the hat.

Gruppo Art. Montagna VICENZA - Home

Since officiers in Italy are never 'dismissed' but only have an 'unlimited absence permit' I theoretically should have earned some promotion, now after 25 years I might be a captain without knowing it... funny world

 

[ccheese]

yeah but is it still enough, remember guys we had alot of that coming out for uniforms, boots and the little things the army didnt give you , and so forth .....

In the 70's (in the US Navy) we were given $7.00 a month for uniform
allowance upkeep. It was figured into your pay, so I guess all branches
of the service got this whopping seven dollars.

Charles

 

[joy17782]

jump pay 150 smacks , thats good and we got a clothing allowance one a year i think it was around 200, when i was a e-1 i think it was 648 a month,

 

[wingnuts]

RAF 1964 to 1970. Aircraft Mechanic Airframes

RAF Kinloss, MOTU (MkT4 Shackleton) and 206 Sqn (Mk3 Shackleton)
RAF Khormaksar, Aden 37 Sqn (Mk2 Shackleton) Hunter Wing 208/43 Sqn (FGA9 T7 Hunters)
RAF Sharjah (detachment) (Mk 2 Shackleton)
RAF Muharraq, Bahrein 105 Sqn (AW Argosy)
RAF Ballykelly H&R Flight (Mk2 Mk3 Shackleton)
RAF Majunga (Mahajanga), Madagascar (detachment) 204 Sqn (Mk 2 Shackleton)

Now in Australia working on RAAF C130 Hercules and occasionally looking after RAAF F/A18A Hornets and Hawks

.... still doing the same sort work I was doing back in 64 8)

 

[DBII]

Nice pictures wingnuts.

DBII

 

[Wildcat]

Great pics mate!

 

[Heinz]

Indeed awesome!

 

[ccheese]

Nice pic's, wingnuts..... what is the four engine aircraft ???

Charles

 

[wingnuts]

Nice pic's, wingnuts..... what is the four engine aircraft ???

Charles

Hi Charles,

The aircraft is an Avro Shackleton MR2, a maritime recon developement of the WW2 Avro Lancaster and the post war Avro Lincoln. used by the RAF in the maritime role from the early 60s until the early 70s when the Nimrod took over. The South Africans also used the Mk3 version which had a tricycle landing gear, they still have one flying.

In the early 70s several MR2 Shackletons were converted to the AEW role by the addition of the APS 20 radar from the Royal Navy Gannets, as a supposed "interim solution" to the problems the AEW version of the Nimrod was having. They never did solve the Nimrods problems so the "Shack" soldiered on until the early 90s.... Britains first line of defence was dependant on a 1950s piston engined bomber and a 1940s developed radar! .... Until the Brit Gov finally decided to by the Boeing E-3D AWACS

The last flyable AEW2 Shackleton WL790 "Mr McHenry" (named from a character in a kids TV show) was flying in the US until recently but has now been moved to the Pima museum in Tuscon. Ther are quite few left in Museums in the UK, Duxford, Newark and also at Coventry Airport. There are 2 more becoming derelict at Paphos Airport in Cyprus... visible on Google Earth

Avro Shackleton's Page - Coastal Command - Maritime Reconnaisance - Royal Air Force 1951-92

Avro Shackleton

FAIREY GANNET - HISTORY

 

[ccheese]

Thanks, Wingnuts. I am really surprised to see a relativley new aircraft
dragging it's tail. Thanks for the pic's.

Charles

 

[wingnuts]

Thanks, Wingnuts. I am really surprised to see a relativley new aircraft
dragging it's tail. Thanks for the pic's.

Charles

It first flew (as a tail dragger) in 1949 ... they eventually came out with the Mk3 tricycle gear version in 1955 although the older Mk2 AEW tail dragger outlasted them by about 20 years.

The Mk3 was much heavier and was later fitted with 2 Viper jets (burning Avgas) in the O/B nacelles behind the Griffons. This, along with the extra weight, caused much more stress on the airframes which is why the Mk2s lasted longer.

We made many trips to US bases, including Cigli (Turkey) Charleston, Dyess, McLelland, Hickam, Wake Island, and Anderson (Guam) and we were always the centre of attention in our "vintage" aircraft.... often greeted by "Hey!@, I did not know you guys still used Lancasters"

Airborne Early Warning: The temporary solution!

 

[wingnuts]

Oops!... doubled up on the post somehow

Notice the 2 engines feathered on the same side in the above photo doing the low pass over the beach (Majunga, Madagascar)..... saves covering everone in engine oil.... RR Griffon engines had a bit of a reputation

 

[glzyp]

Us Army Special Forces 1970 to 1994. Retired and now have a small farm in north central Arkansas. Raise Paint and Quarter horses. Planning construction of a half scale F4U Corsair. Am now building a 40 ft by 60 foot metal shop.

 

[DBII]

Cool, glzyp. I have worked with several SF over the years. Welcome to the site.

DBII

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Dropped out of college in 1975 and enlisted in the Air Force as a Weather Observer (my parents didn't approve of the Polish-American Catholic girl I was dating and married that same year). Got my Meteorology degree via the AF (lots of night school) and got commissioned 01 APR 80 (April Fools Day!).

Forced to retire when my back went out and my O-6 told me he wouldn't recommend my promotion to O-4 because "A Major who walks bent over doesn't look right". So, I'm now a retired Captain, still married to that same Polish-American Catholic girl!

Griffiss AFB, NY 75-79
St. Louis University 79-80
Barksdale AFB, LA 80-81
Elmendorf AFB, AK 81-84
St. Louis University 84-85
McGuire AFB, NJ 86-89
Kapaun AFS and Ramstein AB, Germany 89-92
Offutt AFB, NE 92-94

I'm a firm believer in "purple suit" support. When the feces hit the fan, we all wear the same letters on our lapels: US.

CD

 

[ccheese]

Notice the 2 engines feathered on the same side in the above photo doing the low pass over the beach (Majunga, Madagascar)..... saves covering everone in engine oil.... RR Griffon engines had a bit of a reputation

To make a low pass.... with two engines feathered, on the same side takes balls,
and a lot of confidence in an airplane.... and one's ability to control said airplane.

My hat's off to the pilot....

Charles

 

[Downwind.Maddl-Land]

The engines feathered flypast was a bit of a Party Piece of the Shacking Great Fuc£lebomber. My ex-father-in-law was an Air Eng on them and said that the early Mk 1s had that delightful trait of being overpowered. He told me that one did a flypast at a display at Gibraltar (or was it Malta?) on 2 and then turned around (carefully!) and repeated the performance on only one!

Unfortunately, the Air Eng (not my ex's dad) then proceeded to spoil the effect by feathering the one labouring Griffon instead of re-starting a second! The resulting belly-in on the main drag was met by sarcastic wild applause evidently! The aircraft was not badly damaged and returned to service after repair – but never trimmed out ever again!

saves covering everone in engine oil.... RR Griffon engines had a bit of a reputation

Not as bad as the Centaurus on the Blackburn Beverly! You only ever needed a navigator on the outbound leg, you followed the oilslick on the way back...........